Envoy 2021: A New Hope
04-12-2021 | 02:12 PM
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04-12-2021 | 02:31 PM
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Nope. There wasn’t a single class in 2017 that had less than about 20. Most were 20-30 or so. Looks like the cadets started getting first pick in second class of September 2017 and there was only a handful in each class at least through the end of 2017, so there was definitely no class that all but two walked out because they didn’t get the 175 and cadets wouldn’t have come to Envoy “expecting” the SNJ 175 until at least late 2017, maybe even early 2018 as cadets wouldn’t have found out and then taken a month or so to get a class.
Have their been people that leave because they didn’t get what they wanted. Absolutely. But as I said before the cadets were on the hook for money if they left and there was definitely no class that had a mass exodus.
Have their been people that leave because they didn’t get what they wanted. Absolutely. But as I said before the cadets were on the hook for money if they left and there was definitely no class that had a mass exodus.
04-12-2021 | 02:52 PM
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You’re right they’re worse than off the street hires are. Oh wait no they’re actually better because they didn’t get 1500 towing banners. I prefer flying with a kid from Riddle or UND any day because they actually have a clue what they’re doing, and they’ve spent years learning and preparing to be here as opposed to someone who dropped off skydivers for a year and studied the gouge to make it through.
04-12-2021 | 04:15 PM
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04-12-2021 | 05:38 PM
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from what I can tell it’s not just envoy, but cadets as a whole. Which makes me think it’s not just cadets, but now we are reaping the benefits of no child left behind participation award generations. You know the ones that never had to do any research or studying on their own
As a captain I’ve flown with new hire cadets who more than knew what they were doing.
All anecdotal I suppose.
04-12-2021 | 06:30 PM
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from what I can tell it’s not just envoy, but cadets as a whole. Which makes me think it’s not just cadets, but now we are reaping the benefits of no child left behind participation award generations. You know the ones that never had to do any research or studying on their own
04-13-2021 | 02:56 AM
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Oh here we go generational gap, oh wait no one has to answer why they are still here, what should be asked why the cadets have no idea whats in the fom or there respective aom. Oh God help you if the autopilot or autothrottles are mel'd.
04-13-2021 | 04:44 AM
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The lack of AOM knowledge is a reflection of the training department. AQP has enabled pilots to become lazy and not learn. How many new pilots could draw the hydraulic system and actually explain how it works? We are not AA and despite the dream to standardize everything with them, our training needs to be more robust because we are seeing a different type of pilot than them.
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