I don’t think I could have dinner with a pathological liar like RW. And if I did, I'd probably need lots of tums to digest all his lies.

 

i drank beer at the supper. Beer helps.

 

If you've been following it, you'd know it's in the end game over there. That said, even at current book, it's way better than being a commuter at Envoy... and if you don't mind the longer trips, with longer blocks of time off, then the QOL can be amazing.

I do 10 days away from home this month. Day 1 and 10 are both on duty paid travel days, leaving 8 days to work. I have 3 flights and 2 deadheads in those 8 days. My days off will be in Fort Worth, Salt Lake, and Ontario CA this this month. There is no crash pad, there is no jumpseating to/from work. We keep the air miles and most hotel points. If there's no Hotel van, or car service booked, they put on our schedule to use the company Uber account. If we're in an airport over 4 hours we use the company credit card and go to the admirals club. If we international deadhead over 3 hours it's business class or better, or you can take extra pay to ride coach. First year pay here is $124ph at a 64 hour min guarantee.... or $95.2k to start. Top step CA is $297ph. I've been home since the 21st of last month..... you? Try it before you knock it.

Dera and TC both made good moves.

 

I think the other part of it is cargo carriers that don’t fly their own paint are somewhat like regionals. Obviously Atlas has their own paint, but cargo carriers “borrow” call signs from FedEx or UPS. The model is the same, the pay scale is way better though. As far as stability idk if places like southern or atlas are too notch especially as Amazon brings in their own flying. This is just an opinion though and I’d like the discussion on this because the cargo carriers have always been an interesting route to take besides the LCC’s


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Close but no cigar, yes ACMI is built off of contract flying. Amazon is far from Atlas largest or profitable customer. It would be nice to keep Amazon but Amazon will not break Atlas either.....

 

4 day trips are long enough for me. I enjoy home way too much to be on the road in a germ infested hotel taking a toll on my health. I have seen first hand on how fast cargo peeps age. I think once the flood gates are open to the legacies these cargo carriers will be drone operation outfits.

 

It's hilarious to watch someone cite time away from home as a negative, then stay somewhere where you have to work more days.
Envoy=11 days off a month
Atlas/Kalitta/Omni=14+ days off a month.

 

Well with little kids (and some wives) it might be better to check in weekly. Depends on the family situation. When I was in a career place where ACMI was an option, my kids were too little for that schedule to be good for them. For me the total days off would have been about a wash (some seniority at the regional, and was driving to work).

 

I have a buddy there who hods a 60-day line and averages 14 days off a month. I guess it comes down to what you want and how you bid.

 

Different folks, different strokes. If you are someone that lives in a place with fewer commute options, being gone for a longer stretch, plus having the employer responsible for the commute makes for a better QOL. Or some people like having more of those days off together. Depends on one’s lifestyle and place in life. I’ve heard guys that flew night shift stuff that had younger kids worked better because they actually had more time with them when the kids were awake and they (the pilot) could sleep while the kids were in school.

One also has to look at your age and how long you have left in the game to decide whether giving up what seniority you have is worth starting over someplace “better”. Better is relative, not just which company, but when you were hired. Some places, like Envoy was for a while, even if you were hired at what could have been the “right time” if you ended up on the 145 instead of the 175, it was night and day different.