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Chato 06-14-2022 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by DocMcFly (Post 3441087)
Oh that’s neat. We have to choose 1 person for the year. Is the buddy pass totally free to them or a discount or are there fees like taxes etc.?

i usually give these to people i dont really like or my mother in law. They have a set cost. It’s not worth the hassle honestly.

nkweb 06-14-2022 06:18 PM

So does a new hire FO that's eligible for direct entry captain still get all those bonuses plus the $145/hr? All of these bonus and pay programs are a bit confusing... What is the training pay now and what can a new hire who has previous 121 expect?

SlipIt 06-14-2022 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ilikeplanes96 (Post 3440949)
Hey guys. Just wondering how long after you put in an app are you guys getting calls?

Literally 3 hrs. 1600 hrs TT all Part 91

fatman 06-14-2022 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by nkweb (Post 3441097)
So does a new hire FO that's eligible for direct entry captain still get all those bonuses plus the $145/hr? All of these bonus and pay programs are a bit confusing... What is the training pay now and what can a new hire who has previous 121 expect?

as far as I know, we don’t tend to actually hire decs. We hire them as an FO, and then the next bid, generally before you finish training, will force you to upgrade. So more than likely you’ll get the same treatment/pay everyone else gets.
1st yr FO pay / 64hrs a month. Until finish training. Then you’d upgrade to the $145.

BigZ 06-15-2022 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by fatman (Post 3441207)
as far as I know, we don’t tend to actually hire decs. We hire them as an FO, and then the next bid, generally before you finish training, will force you to upgrade. So more than likely you’ll get the same treatment/pay everyone else gets.
1st yr FO pay / 64hrs a month. Until finish training. Then you’d upgrade to the $145.

We are not currently hiring decs, but sometime in the summer of 2018 when we were, the process changed and they stopped choosing from the FO slot pool in indoc and were handed whatever was in the standing CA vacancy with year 1 CA pay. That's when we got that LOA about CA pay at award vs end of OE.

nkweb 06-15-2022 01:59 AM

Are you forced to upgrade if you have the hours as a new hire or can you fly as an FO for a few months to gain some experience?

pitchattitude 06-15-2022 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by nkweb (Post 3441222)
Are you forced to upgrade if you have the hours as a new hire or can you fly as an FO for a few months to gain some experience?

There are CURRENTLY no forced upgrades. Check back in about three weeks when the results of the next (should be announced in the next week or two) bid closes. There is currently a standing vacancy for 145 ORD Captain which means you MAY bid for that if you have the qualifying hours. Probably not a good idea with the fleet shrinking.

Chato 06-15-2022 06:54 AM

reserve list at least DCL looks a lot better. I guess pilot shortage has been magically solved without having to lower standards

NoValueAviator 06-15-2022 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by Chato (Post 3441339)
without having to lower standards

fly with some new hire FOs fresh off IOE. Airmanship standards are way down.

Chato 06-15-2022 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3441348)
fly with some new hire FOs fresh off IOE. Airmanship standards are way down.

ie. 1500 hour rule


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