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SlipIt 07-12-2022 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by switchto22 (Post 3459345)
Have you been able to get through to anyone? I've read your posts and they sound identical to my experience with them. My recruiter is giving me no answers and the last few days I haven't even gotten through to them on the phone or email. At this point I just want to verify I'm on the list to be called.


Ditto on what Planegeek said. I can’t get an answer or any info from Envoy… have an Oct class date with SkyWest. (Interviewed with 00 two weeks AFTER Envoy). Plan to get flying as soon as I can even if it’s half pay and no bonuses. Frustrating about lack of communication though.

dera 07-12-2022 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by SlipIt (Post 3459364)
Ditto on what Planegeek said. I can’t get an answer or any info from Envoy… have an Oct class date with SkyWest. (Interviewed with 00 two weeks AFTER Envoy). Plan to get flying as soon as I can even if it’s half pay and no bonuses. Frustrating about lack of communication though.

If you are new to 121 world, in this job market you want the first possible class date and stick to it. The regional money is pennies over what you will make in your career, and delaying your legacy class date costs you 30-40k/month at the end of your career.

BigZ 07-13-2022 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3459489)
If you are new to 121 world, in this job market you want the first possible class date and stick to it. The regional money is pennies over what you will make in your career, and delaying your legacy class date costs you 30-40k/month at the end of your career.

In theory. In practice, go where you'd be ok next five years (or more, should things come to screeching halt).
Class date now or in a month, how long till done with IOE etc - it seems important, but it isn't.

Planegeek 07-13-2022 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 3460166)
In theory. In practice, go where you'd be ok next five years (or more, should things come to screeching halt).
Class date now or in a month, how long till done with IOE etc - it seems important, but it isn't.

It’s not just a month. It’s an in determinant amount of time. I still don’t have a class date and I’ve been waiting over 6 weeks to even schedule one with them.

I do agree if it’s a difference of only a few weeks and you can confirm you have a date then go with where you’d be happy getting stuck. But I have to agree with the above that if it’s between starting somewhere now vs 6 months or more then go where you can begin your career sooner. I’m scrambling now to figure out additional interviews since envoy was my only option and I’m ready to move on after waiting this long

Jetpower 07-13-2022 09:25 PM

This delay of publishing class dates is concerning. I had an interview with SkyWest last month and received a class date for Jan 2023 (E175). Then I was recently asked if I could start in Oct 2022 but I had to say no since I'm still sitting around 600hrs (150hrs short). Apparently, SkyWest is doubling their class size so if you're not worried about pay then SkyWest maybe an option. Just food for thought.

BigZ 07-13-2022 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Planegeek (Post 3460172)
It’s not just a month. It’s an in determinant amount of time. I still don’t have a class date and I’ve been waiting over 6 weeks to even schedule one with them.

I do agree if it’s a difference of only a few weeks and you can confirm you have a date then go with where you’d be happy getting stuck. But I have to agree with the above that if it’s between starting somewhere now vs 6 months or more then go where you can begin your career sooner. I’m scrambling now to figure out additional interviews since envoy was my only option and I’m ready to move on after waiting this long

For 6-7 months in 2018 we didn't hire anyone but cadets and RTP to clean up the backlog of those.
Current situation is probably similar in a sense that there is an influx of prior 121 people and the recruiting is trying to figure out when they can put who in class. I get it, got the mins, interviewed, CJO, all ready to go and nothing is happening. Annoying. Make a decision that you are going to be context with in the long run. Delays aren't forever.

CptnDave 07-14-2022 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by SlipIt (Post 3459364)
Ditto on what Planegeek said. I can’t get an answer or any info from Envoy… have an Oct class date with SkyWest. (Interviewed with 00 two weeks AFTER Envoy). Plan to get flying as soon as I can even if it’s half pay and no bonuses. Frustrating about lack of communication though.

Stupid thing to say. “Yea I’ll go make peanuts” Please go to skywest.
Btw the wait time for IOE there is 3+ months

SlipIt 07-14-2022 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3460540)
Stupid thing to say. “Yea I’ll go make peanuts” Please go to skywest.
Btw the wait time for IOE there is 3+ months

Stupid to accept an offer when it's the only one on the table?

mazerRack 07-16-2022 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3460540)
Stupid thing to say. “Yea I’ll go make peanuts” Please go to skywest.
Btw the wait time for IOE there is 3+ months

I'm OO just browsing some threads here. My very recent wait for IOE was only 10 days. If you're in the ERJ, waits are quick. CRJ, waits are 6 months.

NoValueAviator 07-20-2022 05:58 AM

Right now going any regional but an AA w/o regional is a costly financial decision. Money doesn't matter to everyone though, it has died off more recently but around the time I got hired a lot of people had huge trust funds.


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