Envoy 2022: The Flow of Charlie Bucket
03-07-2022, 04:36 AM
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They also mentioned the possible return of the standing vacancies. The past couple months I’ve flown with several FOs that had the time and seniority but were all holding out because they weren’t sure they’d get the 175.
I’d expect that mentality to continue into the future bids. I imagine everyone going to 145CA in the future bids will all be displacements. Then of course when the next bid comes, they’ll all jump ship to the 175. Further backing up training.
if only this company could be proactive for once
I’d expect that mentality to continue into the future bids. I imagine everyone going to 145CA in the future bids will all be displacements. Then of course when the next bid comes, they’ll all jump ship to the 175. Further backing up training.
if only this company could be proactive for once
03-07-2022, 04:43 AM
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But the reality is that likely isn’t enough under current circumstances to keep people from jumping which says they need more incentive to stay where they are.
03-07-2022, 06:19 AM
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Yeah, I don't think that's enough given the fleet draw down of the 145. It was a very different situation a couple years back when that LOA was implemented and that still wasn't enough for some people then. Also, I think the value of that LOA took a huge hit when we learned the company can cancel that five hours of pay per month if they ever found the desire to.
03-07-2022, 07:48 PM
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Yeah, I don't think that's enough given the fleet draw down of the 145. It was a very different situation a couple years back when that LOA was implemented and that still wasn't enough for some people then. Also, I think the value of that LOA took a huge hit when we learned the company can cancel that five hours of pay per month if they ever found the desire to.
03-08-2022, 02:57 AM
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That cancels the seat lock too. Take my money? I’ll go sit in a class room for 2 months waiting for somebody else to call.
03-08-2022, 06:16 AM
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03-08-2022, 06:24 AM
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The thing is that’s what anyone who gets displaced will be. It’s STAYING on the 145 that they need an incentive for. Theoretically, taking the seat lock after displacement would be worth about $5K per year with the extra 5 hours per month pay (for two years).
But losing someone for two months during a second long term training event plus the cost of training itself (actual cost plus both are opportunity costs) need to be looked at and factored in, but the company has shown both unwillingness to work with the union and pilots and likely because they are unable to see the TRUE cost of not fixing these problems.
But losing someone for two months during a second long term training event plus the cost of training itself (actual cost plus both are opportunity costs) need to be looked at and factored in, but the company has shown both unwillingness to work with the union and pilots and likely because they are unable to see the TRUE cost of not fixing these problems.
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