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06-15-2015 | 01:54 PM

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FirstClass

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Originally Posted by Flightcap

To make me or any other zero-121 interested, we have to see solid reasons to think a flow is semi-permanent, not just a management plan to downsize Envoy that will become a broken promise once AA likes the size of Envoy's pilot group.

What if someone were to give you equally solid reasons that a flow is not permanent, would that make you change your mind? The only thing that is crystal clear to me is AA is not going to do anything that they feel jeopardizes their feed. They'll pick the non wholly owneds dry first if it means protecting their feed.

The truth of the matter is probably AA doesn't even know what it will do long term, from a planning perspective, airlines never look that far in to the future.

06-15-2015 | 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

blah blah bla etc etc
from a planning perspective, airlines never look that far in to the future.

You speak as if you are some seasoned veteran of this industry or that your day job is as an airline executive. You're not though. If you have even made it to IOE I would be surprised.
Stop posting know-it-all crud. You know very little at this point in your career.

06-15-2015 | 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

That is precisely correct. Although if/when the 3 carriers start to fall apart because there are no more pilots available to hire, you will see precisely that. In summation, it serves AA best interests right now to keep them separate exactly as you have identified. But there will come a time when that is no longer in their best interests. But even then, that action can't stop what's about to happen to all regional airlines. As some have said already, its a mathematical certainty.

The pool of pilots is getting dry for now. However, that does not mean that the regionals will no longer be able to hire more pilots in the future. Some amendments will probably be made so that more pilots will be eligible for hire. I believe that because if the regionals disappeared it would collapse the airline structure as it is. The majors and LCC's cannot absorb all regional pilots in a short amount of time. It would just create chaos.
I'm not saying the system is ideal as it is, but from a pragmatic standpoint, the math doesn't add up otherwise.

06-15-2015 | 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

The truth of the matter is probably AA doesn't even know what it will do long term, from a planning perspective, airlines never look that far in to the future.

you really are new to the industry aren't you.

06-15-2015 | 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader

Really? Where do I work? What position do I hold? Just curious on what you think you know.

06-15-2015 | 03:57 PM

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you really are new to the industry aren't you.

I know who you are so I know I've been in it a lot longer than you. Pretty much everything you have to say is usually filled with a half truth of some kind, while the information I provide is solid fact. Your information is also provided second hand.