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-   -   Envoy's future (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/80934-envoys-future.html)

snippercr 04-20-2014 04:59 PM
Originally Posted by CaptainNameless (Post 1627034)
So if Envoy/Eagle is streamlined and becomes the guaranteed (and only) front door to AA, how do military types see that as a viable option? Wouldn't there still have to be a way for those types to jump the line?
Why would military people have to jump the line? Spend a year or two at a regional then flow up to mainline just like everyone else.

Bzzt 04-20-2014 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1627119)
Why would military people have to jump the line? Spend a year or two at a regional then flow up to mainline just like everyone else.
Surely you jest!

snippercr 04-20-2014 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1627137)
Surely you jest!
Stop calling me Shirley

Paid2fly 04-20-2014 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1627170)
Stop calling me Shirley












"Have you ever seen a grown man naked"?

Mason32 04-21-2014 05:23 AM
Originally Posted by CaptainNameless (Post 1627034)
So if Envoy/Eagle is streamlined and becomes the guaranteed (and only) front door to AA, how do military types see that as a viable option? Wouldn't there still have to be a way for those types to jump the line?

And how do XJT/SKYW/RAH... any independent, non-mainline owned regional convince ANY new pilots to go work there? How do they keep anyone below 5 years seniority from leaving to a regional with a route straight to American? I can see above that seniority staying put especially if close to upgrade. But having too few new FOs seems like a better problem to solve than having none.

If AA makes this move the other regionals/majors will have to do something to keep their planes flying, no?
They already offered exactly that to envoy. They admitted class sizes will shrink to 30 over the summer. The TA envoy rejected gave them not only 1/2 of each class, it gave them the 1st 30 seats. If there are only 30 per class, guess where all -ALL- the hiring was coming from.
If the company hadn't tried to rape them, this flow would now be in place already.

snippercr 04-21-2014 05:58 AM
Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1627334)
They already offered exactly that to envoy. They admitted class sizes will shrink to 30 over the summer. The TA envoy rejected gave them not only 1/2 of each class, it gave them the 1st 30 seats. If there are only 30 per class, guess where all -ALL- the hiring was coming from.
If the company hadn't tried to rape them, this flow would now be in place already.
That is something that I think gives your prediction validity. When Pedro and Winkles came out and said that it would be the FIRST 30 in each class, there was the possibility that the flow could basically make 100% of all AA classes Eagle pilots only. Apparently that is something they (AAG/APA) were okay with.

JohnLocke 04-21-2014 06:20 AM
Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1627334)
Quote:
They already offered exactly that to envoy. They admitted class sizes will shrink to 30 over the summer. The TA envoy rejected gave them not only 1/2 of each class, it gave them the 1st 30 seats. If there are only 30 per class, guess where all -ALL- the hiring was coming from.
If the company hadn't tried to rape them, this flow would now be in place already.
Ok I'll be the one to ask it- out of sheer curiosity, the person who's sharing this inside information with you is ok with you posting most, if not all of the details of the company's future operational strategy that has yet to be announced on a public forum?

lakehouse 04-21-2014 06:35 AM
Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1627334)
They already offered exactly that to envoy. They admitted class sizes will shrink to 30 over the summer. The TA envoy rejected gave them not only 1/2 of each class, it gave them the 1st 30 seats. If there are only 30 per class, guess where all -ALL- the hiring was coming from.
If the company hadn't tried to rape them, this flow would now be in place already.
Didn't the ta flow not take effect till,sept?

PilotJ3 04-21-2014 06:35 AM
Originally Posted by CaptainNameless (Post 1627034)
So if Envoy/Eagle is streamlined and becomes the guaranteed (and only) front door to AA, how do military types see that as a viable option? Wouldn't there still have to be a way for those types to jump the line?

And how do XJT/SKYW/RAH... any independent, non-mainline owned regional convince ANY new pilots to go work there? How do they keep anyone below 5 years seniority from leaving to a regional with a route straight to American? I can see above that seniority staying put especially if close to upgrade. But having too few new FOs seems like a better problem to solve than having none.

If AA makes this move the other regionals/majors will have to do something to keep their planes flying, no?
They already offered exactly that to envoy. They admitted class sizes will shrink to 30 over the summer. The TA envoy rejected gave them not only 1/2 of each class, it gave them the 1st 30 seats. If there are only 30 per class, guess where all -ALL- the hiring was coming from.
If the company hadn't tried to rape them, this flow would now be in place already.
They tired to raped us because we let them do it in Bk, why not try it again?

Dutch1 04-21-2014 06:53 AM
Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1627246)
"Have you ever seen a grown man naked"?
No, but I do like gladiator movies. :p


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