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Wano 07-24-2014 07:57 AM

Fellow pilots,

As a part of our ongoing informal discussions with management, we plan to meet today with company executives and listen to their ideas and future plans for our carrier. The MEC will then convene to discuss what was learned and decide how to move forward.

JC

Communications Chairman

theycallmered 07-24-2014 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1690629)
Just plan ahead. Im a McO commuter and never being stuck since I moved here last year. I just lost one Flight and was able to get on the next one.

In Sept they will increase more flying from MIA and McO. It will be around 11 flights a day. We currently have a gap between 6:30pm until 10:25pm with no flights. That gap will be filled with 2 more flights and an extra flight at 11:40pm (I thinks, somewhere around that time).

Worst case, you drive around 3grs going back home. I've done it before...

Sweet. I figure at least for the first couple months I'll have to commute. And worst case I would just drive.

Wano 07-24-2014 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Wano (Post 1690682)
Fellow pilots,

As a part of our ongoing informal discussions with management, we plan to meet today with company executives and listen to their ideas and future plans for our carrier. The MEC will then convene to discuss what was learned and decide how to move forward.

JC

Communications Chairman

Jerry Glass will inevitably make another threat today to kick off the tone for any formal negotiations. When that happens, I hope our guys get up and walk out of the room.

embraer 07-24-2014 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Wano (Post 1690739)
Jerry Glass will inevitably make another threat today to kick off the tone for any formal negotiations. When that happens, I hope our guys get up and walk out of the room.

Are you sure Jerry Glass is even there?

Spoiler 07-24-2014 10:13 AM

yes he is there

embraer 07-24-2014 10:14 AM

Fantastic. Brilliant.

Oh well...maybe he has softened his tone. He is after all a businessman. If tactics A are not working shrewd businessmen change up their game plan rather than keep sticking their finger in the same outlet over and over.

I'm sure he wants to succeed in some way to make himself look good as much as we want to get a deal done. The only question is if everybody will be able to meet in the middle.

tom11011 07-24-2014 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Wano (Post 1690739)
Jerry Glass will inevitably make another threat today to kick off the tone for any formal negotiations. When that happens, I hope our guys get up and walk out of the room.

That shouldn't be necessary, the pilot representatives are there at the request of the company right? Negotiations ended several weeks/months ago, there is nothing new to talk about, both sides are comfortable with the current contract negotiated in good faith, although the company is not abiding by previous promises.

I presume the pilot representatives are just going as a favor to the company because they have been invited for reasons unknown. I wouldn't expect anything new to materialize unless the company needs something or something in the industry has changed forcing a need to meet.

Jvw700 07-24-2014 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1690845)
That shouldn't be necessary, the pilot representatives are there at the request of the company right? Negotiations ended several weeks/months ago, there is nothing new to talk about, both sides are comfortable with the current contract negotiated in good faith, although the company is not abiding by previous promises.

I presume the pilot representatives are just going as a favor to the company because they have been invited for reasons unknown. I wouldn't expect anything new to materialize unless the company needs something or something in the industry has changed forcing a need to meet.


Well I can think of at least one reason they need to meet.... Placing the remaining jets to re fleet envoy!

tom11011 07-24-2014 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 1690856)
Well I can think of at least one reason they need to meet.... Placing the remaining jets to re fleet envoy!

By accepting your bankruptcy contract that you are operating under right now, those jets were supposed to come to you anyway right?

N927EV 07-24-2014 10:58 AM

So your grand plan is tell the company to F off? Like it or not, we have to work with them in some way, or we're toast.


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