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Old 09-12-2014 | 04:40 PM
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Delta FOs do not have a 4 year pay cap...
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Old 09-12-2014 | 05:39 PM
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Well they should
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Old 09-12-2014 | 07:25 PM
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Yeah the proposed 12 year pay cap of a 747 captain at $405/hr would be miserable...
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Old 09-12-2014 | 07:47 PM
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cant wait to see anderson agree to that.
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Old 09-12-2014 | 08:39 PM
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Yeah the proposed 12 year pay cap of a 747 captain at $405/hr would be miserable...
That's a DPA product, not ALPA's just to point out.

DPA is not equal to ALPA.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 04:19 AM
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The next shot at envoy for the 175's will be in 2016. And those are OPTIONS only. So lets see, CRJ's are leaving mid 2015, That will leave envoy with a fleet of 118 old beat up cramped ERJ's that probably are good for a few more years.

Do your homework.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 10:05 AM
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The next shot at envoy for the 175's will be in 2016. And those are OPTIONS only. So lets see, CRJ's are leaving mid 2015, That will leave envoy with a fleet of 118 old beat up cramped ERJ's that probably are good for a few more years.

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Piedmont will be getting our old beat up ERJ's regardless of how they vote. Then, when attrition at Eagle has reached an ideal level, the two crap companies will be merged.

You will be saddled with the pos Piedmont jet rates if they vote yes. Your urging them to do so is only going to hurt you in the long run.

Do your homework...
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Old 09-15-2014 | 10:58 AM
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Actually they have negotiate a new contract on a merge and envoy still has emb rates
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Old 09-15-2014 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JT8D
Piedmont will be getting our old beat up ERJ's regardless of how they vote. Then, when attrition at Eagle has reached an ideal level, the two crap companies will be merged.

You will be saddled with the pos Piedmont jet rates if they vote yes. Your urging them to do so is only going to hurt you in the long run.

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What makes you think a JCBA between Envoy and PDT would end up using the PDT LOA jet rates?

IIRC Pinnacoabla's JCBA ended up with much better rates than the bottom feeder Colgan had before the whole thing went bankrupt. Am I wrong in assuming the merged contracts are usually better for the lesser paid pilot group?

I understand by voting in this TA PDT would hurt the negotiations starting point on pay rates but I'm pretty sure we would end up with something better than the PDT LOA jet rates.
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Old 09-15-2014 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
What makes you think a JCBA between Envoy and PDT would end up using the PDT LOA jet rates?

IIRC Pinnacoabla's JCBA ended up with much better rates than the bottom feeder Colgan had before the whole thing went bankrupt. Am I wrong in assuming the merged contracts are usually better for the lesser paid pilot group?

I understand by voting in this TA PDT would hurt the negotiations starting point on pay rates but I'm pretty sure we would end up with something better than the PDT LOA jet rates.
I hope you're right, but I find the company's obsession with 12/4 caps at all their wholly-owneds to be quite telling of their intent. To so persistently seek 12/4 at both Eagle and Piedmont only to give it away in a merger just because Eagle said no doesn't make any sense from a corporate standpoint.
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