ENVOY presented with details on new contract
12-11-2014 | 09:57 AM
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12-11-2014 | 11:11 AM
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Good Luck.
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12-11-2014 | 11:25 AM
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12-11-2014 | 11:38 AM
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this is how it breaks down
1. your guaranteed 10-15% yes voters due to fear or weakness.
2. 12,500 bonus for captains. some who would not flow will now flow and use this money as a cushion for the pay cut. 10-15%
3. the flow enhancements which is not much different from what we have now but sounds good when you spin it. 10-15%
4. those who have been no votes are just beaten down like a wet dog. 10-15%
5. mid level seniority captains get the 12,500 dollars but have to wait for there turn to flow but if this passes then number 2 above with the senior pilots leave on the flow these captains move up on seniority better schedules and QOL while they wait to flow. 10-15%
this gives you somewhere between 50-75% that they are looking at as yes voters. even if you median it, 62.5% yes voters, thats what aag is looking at.
1. your guaranteed 10-15% yes voters due to fear or weakness.
2. 12,500 bonus for captains. some who would not flow will now flow and use this money as a cushion for the pay cut. 10-15%
3. the flow enhancements which is not much different from what we have now but sounds good when you spin it. 10-15%
4. those who have been no votes are just beaten down like a wet dog. 10-15%
5. mid level seniority captains get the 12,500 dollars but have to wait for there turn to flow but if this passes then number 2 above with the senior pilots leave on the flow these captains move up on seniority better schedules and QOL while they wait to flow. 10-15%
this gives you somewhere between 50-75% that they are looking at as yes voters. even if you median it, 62.5% yes voters, thats what aag is looking at.
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12-11-2014 | 11:44 AM
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12-11-2014 | 01:05 PM
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This TA is worse than the rejected TA in every possible way.
Flow through: Rejected TA first 30 every month; minimum 360 a year.
Current TA; 50% or 30 whichever is less; 220 a year.
Profit Sharing: Rejected TA elimination of profit sharing was subject to the same concession by all other AE employess. Current TA has no such stipulation, it just gives up profit sharing.
PBS: Rejected TA pushed any obligation to ratify PBS until the 61st 175 delivery. This placed a financial incentive on the company to place the options here. Current TA delays PBS until the delivery of the 40th 175, thereby removing the incentive to place the options here.
I could go on, but you get the idea. How does this TA become endorsed by the MEC? It is a worse deal than what was rejected by a majority of our pilots and this MEC endorses it!!??
Is $12,500 enough to buy a sucker?
Flow through: Rejected TA first 30 every month; minimum 360 a year.
Current TA; 50% or 30 whichever is less; 220 a year.
Profit Sharing: Rejected TA elimination of profit sharing was subject to the same concession by all other AE employess. Current TA has no such stipulation, it just gives up profit sharing.
PBS: Rejected TA pushed any obligation to ratify PBS until the 61st 175 delivery. This placed a financial incentive on the company to place the options here. Current TA delays PBS until the delivery of the 40th 175, thereby removing the incentive to place the options here.
I could go on, but you get the idea. How does this TA become endorsed by the MEC? It is a worse deal than what was rejected by a majority of our pilots and this MEC endorses it!!??
Is $12,500 enough to buy a sucker?
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