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Old 12-10-2014 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
If Envoy was the only American regional, I do not think they would be in this position, ie they would have much more leverage.
They were the only American regional for many years.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
They were the only American regional for many years.
Which is part of their problem.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
they all say that when it's contract time
drag out the script and parrot the lines who will ever know
then promise a career at the major they won't fulfill and then come back and blame the pilots for costs
seems to get the needed mileage every time
^^^This. Flow is a scam that works for a small few.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by use2fly
^^^This. Flow is a scam that works for a small few.
Flow is a management tool to ensure retention at a regional airline. Pilots working for an airline without flow stand a better chance at being hired at one of the 3 legacy airlines. A pilot working for a regional with a flow realistically only stands a chance of being hired on with the "other" two legacy airlines unless he or she can afford to wait in a very long line.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Flow is a management tool to ensure retention at a regional airline. Pilots working for an airline without flow stand a better chance at being hired at one of the 3 legacy airlines. A pilot working for a regional with a flow realistically only stands a chance of being hired on with the "other" two legacy airlines unless he or she can afford to wait in a very long line.
Your first sentence makes sense and is obviously correct. The rest is absolutely ridiculous. Envoy and Piedmont pilots are being hired EVERY WHERE.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
Your first sentence makes sense and is obviously correct. The rest is absolutely ridiculous. Envoy and Piedmont pilots are being hired EVERY WHERE.
Well of course, but not to the degree they could be. Why would American want to destroy its own feed system? American would be best served destroying United and Delta's feed.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Flow is a management tool to ensure retention at a regional airline. Pilots working for an airline without flow stand a better chance at being hired at one of the 3 legacy airlines. A pilot working for a regional with a flow realistically only stands a chance of being hired on with the "other" two legacy airlines unless he or she can afford to wait in a very long line.

Hahahah yes that makes no sense at all. We are still losing people to other Majors and other regionals. While leaving for another regional has now slowed down.j

Having a flow does something good. Are Piedmont Pilots GUARANTEED jobs or interviews at Delta or United? I've flown with a few that don't have American as there first choice. But lets say you get a interview with Delta or United and don't get hired by those two. Remember you're not guaranteed to get hired. So guess what now you have American as the Ace in your hand. It's a win win! Hell maybe you got a better chance of getting hired as a Delta/United guy over one of there own express people. I remember when WO'ed pilots had no chance at US Airways over the Contract pilots. That really sucked for the WO'ed folks.

Flow is a win/win. Take it or leave it.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Hahahah yes that makes no sense at all. We are still losing people to other Majors and other regionals. While leaving for another regional has now slowed down.j

Having a flow does something good. Are Piedmont Pilots GUARANTEED jobs or interviews at Delta or United? I've flown with a few that don't have American as there first choice. But lets say you get a interview with Delta or United and don't get hired by those two. Remember you're not guaranteed to get hired. So guess what now you have American as the Ace in your hand. It's a win win! Hell maybe you got a better chance of getting hired as a Delta/United guy over one of there own express people.

Flow is a win/win. Take it or leave it.
I think you may have misread.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I think you may have misread.
Yes.. I see what you said there tom. My bad!
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Old 12-10-2014 | 10:30 AM
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Maybe to fix that you give everyone at the American WO'ed an actually Number. Then it's fix and you retain everyone at your feed.
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