Envoy/Eagle to get 40 E-175's w/90 options
12-23-2014 | 03:18 PM
#101
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A320Flyer - is your avatar an Israeli AF squadron patch? Were you IDF before Spirit?
12-23-2014 | 03:44 PM
#102
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Are you saying there are different pay scales for flows coming to AA then the what we have in place?
12-23-2014 | 04:14 PM
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one small factor is that the Feds LET you strike. They didn't let Pinnacle and a few others who would have jumped at the chance to strike.
12-23-2014 | 04:14 PM
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I won't disagree with you because I have never been in your position, but I would think you had a bit more leverage when you walked. To hold your accomplishment over Eagle's head is a little wrong. Did the Spirit MEC extend anything to Eagle's? Again, I may not be as versed in history as you, but Eagle didn't have near as much leverage. I don't think AAG was too concerned with the vote outcome as your managers were to striking a deal.
12-23-2014 | 04:23 PM
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Alpa is the reason why eny pilots voted the way they did.
Good Luck.
12-23-2014 | 04:29 PM
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I'd say us and all others that walked the line deserve a small star, a recognition, on top of the regular ALPA pin. Ask the second question to the regional pilots. Spirit pilots did their part.
When was the last time a regional airline was released to strike? Comair I believe and that was quite a while ago.
12-23-2014 | 07:17 PM
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I know. I don't blame Envoy for this. Everyone screams unity, but in the end, they'll stab you in the back without thinking twice. Anything to get that TPIC and quick interview at a legacy. You guys drew the line and said no. PSA stabbed you in the back. TSA salivated over Eagle flying. At some point you gotta say enough and draw your own line when others have backstabbed you.
12-23-2014 | 07:32 PM
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December 7 2014 Tentative Agrement Final Language 1.pdf
Here's the term sheet. In it, you'll find the pay rates in the back.
This is not a time to celebrate for Envoy pilots. My head hangs low in shame--feel free to deny me your jumpseat. The worst of it was at the ENY HDQ today where everyone was celebrating with cake ( decorated with an E175) and already an American Eagle E175 airplane model. To me, it was such a punch in the face when other employees came to the pilots to congratulate us and give us hugs and "thank yous". I just felt like I had came from a funeral. Legacy Eagle is dead. The new Envoy is here.
Here's the term sheet. In it, you'll find the pay rates in the back.
This is not a time to celebrate for Envoy pilots. My head hangs low in shame--feel free to deny me your jumpseat. The worst of it was at the ENY HDQ today where everyone was celebrating with cake ( decorated with an E175) and already an American Eagle E175 airplane model. To me, it was such a punch in the face when other employees came to the pilots to congratulate us and give us hugs and "thank yous". I just felt like I had came from a funeral. Legacy Eagle is dead. The new Envoy is here.
12-23-2014 | 08:28 PM
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Attachment 1778
Here's the term sheet. In it, you'll find the pay rates in the back.
This is not a time to celebrate for Envoy pilots. My head hangs low in shame--feel free to deny me your jumpseat. The worst of it was at the ENY HDQ today where everyone was celebrating with cake ( decorated with an E175) and already an American Eagle E175 airplane model. To me, it was such a punch in the face when other employees came to the pilots to congratulate us and give us hugs and "thank yous". I just felt like I had came from a funeral. Legacy Eagle is dead. The new Envoy is here.
Here's the term sheet. In it, you'll find the pay rates in the back.
This is not a time to celebrate for Envoy pilots. My head hangs low in shame--feel free to deny me your jumpseat. The worst of it was at the ENY HDQ today where everyone was celebrating with cake ( decorated with an E175) and already an American Eagle E175 airplane model. To me, it was such a punch in the face when other employees came to the pilots to congratulate us and give us hugs and "thank yous". I just felt like I had came from a funeral. Legacy Eagle is dead. The new Envoy is here.
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