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TrakTrak 08-02-2015 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 1942058)
hope that works out, AA has a tendency to change the rules in the middle of the game. They want flow because AA knows it's getting harder and harder to find pilots and is concerned in the next few years AA and every other is major is going to have and issue with hiring pilots.

W/13,000 applicants, I don't think we will have a hard time getting pilots...no problem at all.

RJ Pilot 08-02-2015 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear (Post 1942210)
Friend of mine has close to two years seniority at AA. He's 40% up the S80 list holding partial weekends off, 3 day trips, making more than he did when he left Eagle.

Not for long, as they park the S80,his qol will degrade. But money wise..good for him.



Good Luck!

TrakTrak 08-02-2015 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942250)
Not for long, as they park the S80,his qol will degrade. But money wise..good for him.



Good Luck!

QOL on narrow body reserve isn't bad at all. I've had more time off or sat at home more than any of the reserve time spent at MQ. But I also live 8 miles from DFW.

snippercr 08-02-2015 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942250)
Not for long, as they park the S80,his qol will degrade. But money wise..good for him.



Good Luck!

Tell us more about life over at AA. I'm sure some of your buds are over there. Tell us more about what will happen to QOL on each fleet type. Can we call you the Oracle now that you have stopped calling Cujo that?

Ask me if I've upgraded yet! Oh and wish me good luck!

~your buddy snippy

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1942342)
Tell us more about life over at AA. I'm sure some of your buds are over there. Tell us more about what will happen to QOL on each fleet type. Can we call you the Oracle now that you have stopped calling Cujo that?

Ask me if I've upgraded yet! Oh and wish me good luck!

~your buddy snippy

Oh man, those 62hrs 4 day trips at envoy got your head spinning! Can't imagine what 5 day trips will do to you.

Good Luck!

Cujo665 08-03-2015 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by TrakTrak (Post 1942294)
QOL on narrow body reserve isn't bad at all. I've had more time off or sat at home more than any of the reserve time spent at MQ. But I also live 8 miles from DFW.

The consensus from all I've spoken with is that the worst day on reserve at AA, is still better than the best day at EagleVoy.

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1942412)
The consensus from all I've spoken with is that the worst day on reserve at AA, is still better than the best day at EagleVoy.

Not enough lifers getting out of your way?

Good Luck!

Cujo665 08-03-2015 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942426)
Not enough lifers getting out of your way?

Good Luck!

W T F is wrong with you?

First off, the more of those "lifers" as you call them that do not go would mean I'd go sooner. So, since I just repeated how much happier people are over at AA I actually am not helping myself in any way.

Second, I am passing along accurate info from those who have transferred, so others may make an informed choice. More senior guys deciding to change their mind doesn't help me go sooner.
It's doing my job to get them accurate information, even when it isn't in my personal best interest.

Third, I don't need advice from a guy that flys into closed airports

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 06:33 AM

Someone ate one too many hot dogs at yesterday's game.

Good Luck!

Buzzlightyear 08-03-2015 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942457)
Someone ate one too many hot dogs at yesterday's game.

Good Luck!

Maybe he accepted the challenge and didn't eat one at all. By the way Citi Field was rockin' like Shea. Beat up on the Nationals, 6 in a row. Sounds like you missed out.

airlinegypsy 08-03-2015 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by TrakTrak (Post 1942232)
W/13,000 applicants, I don't think we will have a hard time getting pilots...no problem at all.

How many of those 13K also have applications on file at Delta, United, Southwest, FedEx, etc...? How many of those 13K already have jobs at one of those carriers?

TrakTrak 08-03-2015 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by airlinegypsy (Post 1942476)
How many of those 13K also have applications on file at Delta, United, Southwest, FedEx, etc...? How many of those 13K already have jobs at one of those carriers?

Doesn't matter. If there was no flow, we would be hiring folks left & right just like the other two carriers. It's because of the contract & furloughs we don't hire as much off the street. Most pilots & I wish all, get in where they fit in. First one gives a class date is the first one they go to work for.

Again, I don't think we would have an issue staffing AA.

TrakTrak 08-03-2015 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1942412)
The consensus from all I've spoken with is that the worst day on reserve at AA, is still better than the best day at EagleVoy.

This side of the house is a piece of cake. I've been home 8 straight and I'm on reserve. Never had those days at MQ.

inline five 08-03-2015 10:59 AM

My record was 23 off in a row on long call sitting at home. Can't wait to move to domicile and sit short on the bigger equipment. That's one heck of an easy life.

As the S80's go away they are being replaced by Airbus's and 737's. No need to fret. I do wish I had been hired to that side though, I always wanted to fly the S80.

I wouldn't have ever dreamed of bypassing had I been at Eagle.

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 11:46 AM

My major is better than your regional.....


Good Luck!

snippercr 08-03-2015 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942600)
My major is better than your regional.....


Good Luck!

I thought you flew a GV. Got sick of that an suddenly a left seat 777 CA doing MIA to BCN three times a month ? Jeez keep your lies straight RJ Pilot! Next month you will be complaining about how the space stations extra module is delayed.

Oh and good luck buddy XD

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1942631)
I thought you flew a GV. Got sick of that an suddenly a left seat 777 CA doing MIA to BCN three times a month ? Jeez keep your lies straight RJ Pilot! Next month you will be complaining about how the space stations extra module is delayed.

Oh and good luck buddy XD

Are you that slow? You can't be a captain if you can't keep up.


Good Luck!

TrakTrak 08-03-2015 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by inline five (Post 1942576)
My record was 23 off in a row on long call sitting at home. Can't wait to move to domicile and sit short on the bigger equipment. That's one heck of an easy life.

As the S80's go away they are being replaced by Airbus's and 737's. No need to fret. I do wish I had been hired to that side though, I always wanted to fly the S80.

I wouldn't have ever dreamed of bypassing had I been at Eagle.


The 80 was a great jet, but I'm loving the 73. Tight fit, but the loudness of the cockpit is a little misleading. The 145 is waaaay louder.

snippercr 08-03-2015 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942636)
Are you that slow? You can't be a captain if you can't keep up.


Good Luck!

I'll never be as good as you are in your mind. I've accepted that fact. I'll also never be as good as you at flight sim. You have far more hours logged than me and let's face it... Experience matters.

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by TrakTrak (Post 1942642)
The 80 was a great jet, but I'm loving the 73. Tight fit, but the loudness of the cockpit is a little misleading. The 145 is waaaay louder.

The 73 is almost identical to the E175. You bet envoy pilots are excited about that!



Good Luck!

snippercr 08-03-2015 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942645)
The 73 is almost identical to the E175. You bet envoy pilots are excited about that!



Good Luck!

How many hours have you logged in either? Why don't you go over to the AA sub forum and school those guys on the truths you have. Make sure to include your resume so they believe you (your FSX one of course. That's where you have all your experience)

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1942652)
How many hours have you logged in either? Why don't you go over to the AA sub forum and school those guys on the truths you have. Make sure to include your resume so they believe you (your FSX one of course. That's where you have all your experience)

Never claimed to have flown either. Ill let your buddy eaglefly school those at AA.

Good Luck!

snippercr 08-03-2015 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942656)
Never claimed to have flown either. Ill let your buddy eaglefly school those at AA.

Good Luck!

I never said you did. But you have made some very direct assumptions about QOL on planes you have never flown or comparisons between planes you have never flown (outside of FSX of course. Naturally)

Please, tell me about QOL on the super 80, how it will change for a person of that status and all the similarities between a 737 and E175. Actually post a new thread over on the AA sub forum since you are such an expert. You have already claimed knowledge in both areas so why stop.

Gather round folks, RJ Pilot shall enlighten us all!

Alright buddy, floor is yours!

Oh and good luck! I think for once you will need it.

RJ Pilot 08-03-2015 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1942712)
I never said you did. But you have made some very direct assumptions about QOL on planes you have never flown or comparisons between planes you have never flown (outside of FSX of course. Naturally)

Please, tell me about QOL on the super 80, how it will change for a person of that status and all the similarities between a 737 and E175. Actually post a new thread over on the AA sub forum since you are such an expert. You have already claimed knowledge in both areas so why stop.

Gather round folks, RJ Pilot shall enlighten us all!

Alright buddy, floor is yours!

Oh and good luck! I think for once you will need it.

Don't need to prove you or anyone here about my knowledge at AA. I have plenty of friends overthere with the seniority range from flows-824-to 25+yr seniority.

Im telling you, those schedules at envoy are affecting your mind.

Good Luck!

snippercr 08-03-2015 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1942725)
Don't need to prove you or anyone here about my knowledge at AA. I have plenty of friends overthere with the seniority range from flows-824-to 25+yr seniority.

Im telling you, those schedules at envoy are affecting your mind.

Good Luck!

And there you have it folks. Nothing more to see here from the expert. Just got to trust RJ Pilot knows a thing or two about what he is talking about.

We believe you.

eaglefly 08-03-2015 04:16 PM

Jesus. :cool:

RJ Pilot 08-04-2015 09:21 AM

I find this interesting that envoy alpa wants "unity" with the rest of the American Eagle carriers.... Stand Together!

Unity Amongst Our Own


Unity right now is a key ingredient to our future. “Our” future includes not just the pilots of American Eagle, it includes all the pilots of the regional segment of the industry and in no small way, all airline pilots. We are not in our current position of our own choosing. Some of the reasons are corporate choices, some have to do with the state of the industry, some pilot staffing and some economic. Regardless, here we are and we need to be standing together in our efforts to weather this storm. Division only aids those who would further erode our contract.
Once again, continue the communication to us and we will continue our efforts to communicate to you. Voicing our opinions to fellow pilots will help us as a group, even if our opinions vary. We should not lose sight, however, of the fact that we are all pilots at American Eagle and as members of that group we are all affected by these events.
Resist efforts by anyone to divide us. Stay engaged and stay unified.


Good Luck!

Riverside 08-04-2015 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1943142)
I find this interesting that envoy alpa wants "unity" with the rest of the American Eagle carriers.... Stand Together!

Unity Amongst Our Own


Unity right now is a key ingredient to our future. “Our” future includes not just the pilots of American Eagle, it includes all the pilots of the regional segment of the industry and in no small way, all airline pilots. We are not in our current position of our own choosing. Some of the reasons are corporate choices, some have to do with the state of the industry, some pilot staffing and some economic. Regardless, here we are and we need to be standing together in our efforts to weather this storm. Division only aids those who would further erode our contract.
Once again, continue the communication to us and we will continue our efforts to communicate to you. Voicing our opinions to fellow pilots will help us as a group, even if our opinions vary. We should not lose sight, however, of the fact that we are all pilots at American Eagle and as members of that group we are all affected by these events.
Resist efforts by anyone to divide us. Stay engaged and stay unified.


Good Luck!

Man for being a lifer as a eagle FO, you got some heart. I'm proud of you dude.

Good luck

snippercr 08-04-2015 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1943142)
I find this interesting that envoy alpa wants "unity" with the rest of the American Eagle carriers.... Stand Together!

Unity Amongst Our Own


Unity right now is a key ingredient to our future. “Our” future includes not just the pilots of American Eagle, it includes all the pilots of the regional segment of the industry and in no small way, all airline pilots. We are not in our current position of our own choosing. Some of the reasons are corporate choices, some have to do with the state of the industry, some pilot staffing and some economic. Regardless, here we are and we need to be standing together in our efforts to weather this storm. Division only aids those who would further erode our contract.
Once again, continue the communication to us and we will continue our efforts to communicate to you. Voicing our opinions to fellow pilots will help us as a group, even if our opinions vary. We should not lose sight, however, of the fact that we are all pilots at American Eagle and as members of that group we are all affected by these events.
Resist efforts by anyone to divide us. Stay engaged and stay unified.


Good Luck!

I'm sure you do.

We believe you!

RJ Pilot 08-04-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 1943177)
Man for being a lifer as a eagle FO, you got some heart. I'm proud of you dude.

Good luck

Come on brah, thats low!


Good Luck!

eaglefly 08-04-2015 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 1943177)
Man for being a lifer as a eagle FO, you got some heart. I'm proud of you dude.

Good luck

Nah.........senior DFW captain. Of course, if you want to really know how he feels about Envoy F/O's, just understand the true meaning of the previous post above. :cool:

Al Czervik 08-04-2015 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1943326)
Nah.........senior DFW captain. Of course, if you want to really know how he feels about Envoy F/O's, just understand the true meaning of the previous post above. :cool:

I'm more onboard with the mindset of an eagle FO than what im learning about our senior DFW Captains.

RJ Pilot 08-04-2015 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1943358)
I'm more onboard with the mindset of an eagle FO than what im learning about our senior DFW Captains.

Oh, there is Thrustlever ! Im bringing him back from my ignore list.


Good Luck!

Skyvector 08-04-2015 05:30 PM

God Bless

:)

SMACFUM 08-04-2015 11:24 PM

http://www.facebook.com/EnvoyPilotRe...764766253230:0

Who is Jeff? and why does he get a sweet tail trophy? I want a trophy!

Smutter 08-05-2015 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 1943634)
http://www.facebook.com/EnvoyPilotRe...764766253230:0

Who is Jeff? and why does he get a sweet tail trophy? I want a trophy!

Look at the third pictures comments! The only comment is "to much mesa in the background"! There is not a person on the AA side that likes mesa!

Bootleg 08-05-2015 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1943142)
I find this interesting that envoy alpa wants "unity" with the rest of the American Eagle carriers.... Stand Together!

Unity Amongst Our Own


Unity right now is a key ingredient to our future. “Our” future includes not just the pilots of American Eagle, it includes all the pilots of the regional segment of the industry and in no small way, all airline pilots. We are not in our current position of our own choosing. Some of the reasons are corporate choices, some have to do with the state of the industry, some pilot staffing and some economic. Regardless, here we are and we need to be standing together in our efforts to weather this storm. Division only aids those who would further erode our contract.
Once again, continue the communication to us and we will continue our efforts to communicate to you. Voicing our opinions to fellow pilots will help us as a group, even if our opinions vary. We should not lose sight, however, of the fact that we are all pilots at American Eagle and as members of that group we are all affected by these events.
Resist efforts by anyone to divide us. Stay engaged and stay unified.


Good Luck!


Alpo wants unity?

I shot Starbucks out of both sides of my nose when I read that.

eaglefly 08-05-2015 02:29 PM


.......We are not in our current position of our own choosing. Some of the reasons are corporate choices, some have to do with the state of the industry, some pilot staffing and some economic.
A ridiculous statement by Envoy ALPA from everything I've heard. This group has a lot to take responsibility for in the decisions that were made and this is simply the same shifting of blame the past administrations were known for.

buddies8 08-05-2015 03:20 PM

wait, apa is not done yet and parker is not aprey.

jdflyer1999 08-05-2015 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Smutter (Post 1943750)
Look at the third pictures comments! The only comment is "to much mesa in the background"! There is not a person on the AA side that likes mesa!

That's too funny! 😀


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