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Old 10-06-2016 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by unity2010
Just saw the Aa Lga town hall meeting on jetnet, Mr Isom has some great plans for eny...good time to be at eny
Good find...I hadn't seen it yet.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Growth isn't bad if it's being done with large numbers of new hires. Which is what is happening. Growth would be bad if it was happening with little to no new hires.

But currently Envoy is flowing and growing...which is great at both ends of the seniority list. That is only possible because of the large number of new hires we are seeing. I hate dropping too much information in such a short period of time...but let's just say that Pedro has a plan to get Envoy back to American Eagle levels of staffing and flying. The goal is a net growth of 20 pilots per month for all of 2017...that includes flowing 30/per month. So a year from now we should be at around 3,000 pilots.

Also, I've referenced it in the past and yesterday the Union did as well in their email...but expect to see another base announcement soon. It will be satellite to start, but should transition to a full base by end of 2017. Again, all this without sacrificing the flow even an inch. Only possible because we will be running classes of 50/per month.

Edit: Also I wanted to stress something for current Envoy pilots. If you live in the Miami area and/or would like to ever be based in Miami... DO NOT upgrade on the CRJ or E175 on this or the next bid. I mean...do what you feel is best for you. I'm just making a suggestion. Remember that any upgrade has a seat lock...and the CRJ and E175 won't be leaving DFW/ORD anytime soon.
How are we going to increase our pilot group to 3000 in a year when we are currently at 1800? I assume it was a typo.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
How are we going to increase our pilot group to 3000 in a year when we are currently at 1800? I assume it was a typo.
Yeah, not in a year. The goal is 3,000 pilots while still flowing 30..with a net increase of 20 per month.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
What's the actual number that is being reduced for AA? I have yet to see it in anything that I have read.
At one point, Republic flew over 100 170/175s for AAG (between AA and US Airways), some of them were 80 seaters with NO first class . I'm hearing is down to 85 hulls flown by Republic for AAG. Republic's growth next year is coming from United, not AA.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Growth isn't bad if it's being done with large numbers of new hires. Which is what is happening. Growth would be bad if it was happening with little to no new hires.

But currently Envoy is flowing and growing...which is great at both ends of the seniority list.
Agreed.


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Old 10-06-2016 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Yeah, not in a year. The goal is 3,000 pilots while still flowing 30..with a net increase of 20 per month.
It would take nearly 7 years to grow the list to 3k by increasing it by 20 per month from current levels.

3,000 pilots is roughly 300 airplanes or half of the AA feed.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by What
It would take nearly 7 years to grow the list to 3k by increasing it by 20 per month from current levels.

3,000 pilots is roughly 300 airplanes or half of the AA feed.
That's Pedro's goal...and it's all I know about it. Anymore details you'll have to ask him directly. Or someone close to him like Nieder or Wilson.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mr25cents
At one point, Republic flew over 100 170/175s for AAG (between AA and US Airways), some of them were 80 seaters with NO first class . I'm hearing is down to 85 hulls flown by Republic for AAG. Republic's growth next year is coming from United, not AA.
It was 105 total Ejets, 85 E75 and 20 E70.

During BK that numbers has decreased to 84, 82 E75 and 2 E70.

The 80 seats E75 did have first class as far as I can re,ember and will be reconfigured in order to allow RAH to merge Republic and Shuttle into a single certificate. I believe there is Mainline partner with CBA language that prevented this, by American reconfiguring the birds they call operate under a single roof now.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Yeah, not in a year. The goal is 3,000 pilots while still flowing 30..with a net increase of 20 per month.
Personally I don't think that is good news. I want the flying, and the pilots, at AA. Of course we still may be headed that way, when you look at retirement numbers, but it would be much much better for every pilot at envoy if they kept us the same size and flowed the surplus pilots, like AA was asking us to start doing. This cements metering for the long term, and while that isn't the worst thing that could happen with the flow, it is far from the best.

While I am glad they finally opened their immensely deep pockets to get enough new hires to flow 30, the agreement said they were supposed to try for 50%, and only meter if operationally required. Pushing for big growth isn't an operational requirement. With AA supposedly set to hire 800-1000 next year, 330 is woefully short, at the expense of all of us.
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Old 10-06-2016 | 05:07 PM
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I'm scheduled for an interview soon. If everything goes ok and receive the pre-offer. How long does it take to receive the final offer? Is it ok to call the recruiter to inquiry about job offer while you wait for the Captain's Review Board?
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