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10-05-2016, 11:19 AM
#5091
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Well if they're only doing 15 a month that's another problem, more like a 10 year flow.
Someone from Envoy can spell it out better than me. I agree with them 100% that if you are planning on going to Envoy, the sooner you get in, the better.
For new hires now, it is something like 5 flows for 480 pilots on property, and then one additional flow for every 125 additional pilots. If there are 1500 pilots on property, that would make the flow around 13 a month (5 + 8).
That is how losing 100 spots could cost you several months.
10-05-2016, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Well if they're only doing 15 a month that's another problem, more like a 10 year flow.
It's basic math. Just like not sacrificing seniority just to fly a certain plane. I'm not sure if you are trolling or if this is just too complicated for you.
10-05-2016, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
By the time the flow gets to new hires at 15/month there will be far fewer people ahead of you than now. It's still 5 years to flow for new hires at 15/month with current groups going at 30/month.
It's basic math. Just like not sacrificing seniority just to fly a certain plane. I'm not sure if you are trolling or if this is just too complicated for you.
It's basic math. Just like not sacrificing seniority just to fly a certain plane. I'm not sure if you are trolling or if this is just too complicated for you.
For example if we hire 45 in one month but only flow 15 per month 5 years from now that one month of hiring could be spaced out over 5 different months. If the most senior guy flows in November and AA doesn't hire in December then the last group would flow in March.
10-05-2016, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
If we start filling classes at the rate of 50 per month then the flow time will start spiking. If the flow works as predicted then it's only going to be a quick flow for those who get in at the beginning of the hiring wave.
For example if we hire 45 in one month but only flow 15 per month 5 years from now that one month of hiring could be spaced out over 5 different months. If the most senior guy flows in November and AA doesn't hire in December then the last group would flow in March.
For example if we hire 45 in one month but only flow 15 per month 5 years from now that one month of hiring could be spaced out over 5 different months. If the most senior guy flows in November and AA doesn't hire in December then the last group would flow in March.
10-05-2016, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Any chance of Envoy losing current flying? Serious question. The CRJs are supposed to go to PSA end of 2017. Where is Piedmont getting their 40'to 80 ERJs, Envoy right? WO shuffle.
10-05-2016, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Any chance of Envoy losing current flying? Serious question. The CRJs are supposed to go to PSA end of 2017. Where is Piedmont getting their 40'to 80 ERJs, Envoy right? WO shuffle.
They finally, after all this time, raised pay, for the express purpose of getting more new hires. We had previously been shrinking for years. They are paying to stop the shrinking, they wouldn't pay otherwise.
10-05-2016, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DilsonWic
That's the goal. Who knows how or when it'll happen? Rumor is CRJs stay until they have an Aspen solution.
10-05-2016, 04:25 PM
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Would any of you nice folks care to tell me how many hours you guys are getting, in excess, of the minimum guarantee per month? I'm trying to think what's best for me to build multi-turbine/multi-jet time. I currently live in the DFW area. Meaning how much extra a month are you guys making from the min guarantee?
I understand the hiring bonus and perks....
I currently have 5000TT, 3400 turboprop(all part 135) and a whopping 28 hours of multi-time.
I have an ATP Single and Multi already and also have a Falcon 20 type rating and a Bachelor's degree.
Any advise would be appreciated and thanks for the help.
I understand the hiring bonus and perks....
I currently have 5000TT, 3400 turboprop(all part 135) and a whopping 28 hours of multi-time.
I have an ATP Single and Multi already and also have a Falcon 20 type rating and a Bachelor's degree.
Any advise would be appreciated and thanks for the help.
10-05-2016, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Its called SKW, they took the LAX ASE and ORD ASE flying, only DFW left and that will soon be SKW.
I totally understand they can figure out Aspen if need be.
10-05-2016, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PC12Junkie
I'm trying to think what's best for me to build multi-turbine/multi-jet time.
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I also suggest growing a pony tail and wearing a pair of crocs. At bars make sure to tell chicks about your sweet home setup.
With a bunch of hard work and a little luck, after a few years on the swivel chair at home you should have enough "multi-turbine/multi-jet time" to land a sweet gig with a virtual airline flying a 747 between LAX and Subic Bay.
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