New Envoy Information
10-06-2016, 07:20 AM
#5111
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Its called SKW, they took the LAX ASE and ORD ASE flying, only DFW left and that will soon be SKW.
10-06-2016, 08:17 AM
#5112
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Originally Posted by moon
We are more than likely going to stay around the same number of birds I'd imagine. If growth is what you are looking for you are looking because that will lead to a quick upgrade right? Well attrition off the top also leads to a quick upgrade. And there will be lots of attrition with the amount of hiring AA is doing not to mention everyone getting hired off the street elsewhere.
10-06-2016, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by use2fly
I'm not saying that won't happen, but It seems unlikely. If SKW ends up being the ONLY carrier that is Aspen certified, they could charge a lot more for those flights.
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10-06-2016, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer
Thought they rolled back the amount of Ejets RAH was gong to operate.
10-06-2016, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
...which is why I don't want growth.
But currently Envoy is flowing and growing...which is great at both ends of the seniority list. That is only possible because of the large number of new hires we are seeing. I hate dropping too much information in such a short period of time...but let's just say that Pedro has a plan to get Envoy back to American Eagle levels of staffing and flying. The goal is a net growth of 20 pilots per month for all of 2017...that includes flowing 30/per month. So a year from now we should be at around 3,000 pilots.
Also, I've referenced it in the past and yesterday the Union did as well in their email...but expect to see another base announcement soon. It will be satellite to start, but should transition to a full base by end of 2017. Again, all this without sacrificing the flow even an inch. Only possible because we will be running classes of 50/per month.
Edit: Also I wanted to stress something for current Envoy pilots. If you live in the Miami area and/or would like to ever be based in Miami... DO NOT upgrade on the CRJ or E175 on this or the next bid. I mean...do what you feel is best for you. I'm just making a suggestion. Remember that any upgrade has a seat lock...and the CRJ and E175 won't be leaving DFW/ORD anytime soon.
10-06-2016, 10:22 AM
#5118
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Growth isn't bad if it's being done with large numbers of new hires. Which is what is happening. Growth would be bad if it was happening with little to no new hires.
But currently Envoy is flowing and growing...which is great at both ends of the seniority list. That is only possible because of the large number of new hires we are seeing. I hate dropping too much information in such a short period of time...but let's just say that Pedro has a plan to get Envoy back to American Eagle levels of staffing and flying. The goal is a net growth of 20 pilots per month for all of 2017...that includes flowing 30/per month. So a year from now we should be at around 3,000 pilots.
Also, I've referenced it in the past and yesterday the Union did as well in their email...but expect to see another base announcement soon. It will be satellite to start, but should transition to a full base by end of 2017. Again, all this without sacrificing the flow even an inch. Only possible because we will be running classes of 50/per month.
Edit: Also I wanted to stress something for current Envoy pilots. If you live in the Miami area and/or would like to ever be based in Miami... DO NOT upgrade on the CRJ or E175 on this or the next bid. I mean...do what you feel is best for you. I'm just making a suggestion. Remember that any upgrade has a seat lock...and the CRJ and E175 won't be leaving DFW/ORD anytime soon.
But currently Envoy is flowing and growing...which is great at both ends of the seniority list. That is only possible because of the large number of new hires we are seeing. I hate dropping too much information in such a short period of time...but let's just say that Pedro has a plan to get Envoy back to American Eagle levels of staffing and flying. The goal is a net growth of 20 pilots per month for all of 2017...that includes flowing 30/per month. So a year from now we should be at around 3,000 pilots.
Also, I've referenced it in the past and yesterday the Union did as well in their email...but expect to see another base announcement soon. It will be satellite to start, but should transition to a full base by end of 2017. Again, all this without sacrificing the flow even an inch. Only possible because we will be running classes of 50/per month.
Edit: Also I wanted to stress something for current Envoy pilots. If you live in the Miami area and/or would like to ever be based in Miami... DO NOT upgrade on the CRJ or E175 on this or the next bid. I mean...do what you feel is best for you. I'm just making a suggestion. Remember that any upgrade has a seat lock...and the CRJ and E175 won't be leaving DFW/ORD anytime soon.
10-06-2016, 11:00 AM
#5120
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Growth isn't bad if it's being done with large numbers of new hires. Which is what is happening. Growth would be bad if it was happening with little to no new hires.
But currently Envoy is flowing and growing...which is great at both ends of the seniority list. That is only possible because of the large number of new hires we are seeing. I hate dropping too much information in such a short period of time...but let's just say that Pedro has a plan to get Envoy back to American Eagle levels of staffing and flying. The goal is a net growth of 20 pilots per month for all of 2017...that includes flowing 30/per month. So a year from now we should be at around 3,000 pilots.
Also, I've referenced it in the past and yesterday the Union did as well in their email...but expect to see another base announcement soon. It will be satellite to start, but should transition to a full base by end of 2017. Again, all this without sacrificing the flow even an inch. Only possible because we will be running classes of 50/per month.
Edit: Also I wanted to stress something for current Envoy pilots. If you live in the Miami area and/or would like to ever be based in Miami... DO NOT upgrade on the CRJ or E175 on this or the next bid. I mean...do what you feel is best for you. I'm just making a suggestion. Remember that any upgrade has a seat lock...and the CRJ and E175 won't be leaving DFW/ORD anytime soon.
But currently Envoy is flowing and growing...which is great at both ends of the seniority list. That is only possible because of the large number of new hires we are seeing. I hate dropping too much information in such a short period of time...but let's just say that Pedro has a plan to get Envoy back to American Eagle levels of staffing and flying. The goal is a net growth of 20 pilots per month for all of 2017...that includes flowing 30/per month. So a year from now we should be at around 3,000 pilots.
Also, I've referenced it in the past and yesterday the Union did as well in their email...but expect to see another base announcement soon. It will be satellite to start, but should transition to a full base by end of 2017. Again, all this without sacrificing the flow even an inch. Only possible because we will be running classes of 50/per month.
Edit: Also I wanted to stress something for current Envoy pilots. If you live in the Miami area and/or would like to ever be based in Miami... DO NOT upgrade on the CRJ or E175 on this or the next bid. I mean...do what you feel is best for you. I'm just making a suggestion. Remember that any upgrade has a seat lock...and the CRJ and E175 won't be leaving DFW/ORD anytime soon.
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