Originally Posted by Icaruss

I'm scheduled for an interview soon. If everything goes ok and receive the pre-offer. How long does it take to receive the final offer? Is it ok to call the recruiter to inquiry about job offer while you wait for the Captain's Review Board?

Originally Posted by RyanP

Unfortunately, your opinion is wrong. This is the airlines and seniority is the only thing that matters. You can spend your time doing whatever you want, but you will pay for it for the rest of your career if you get hired at the back end of a big hiring wave.. And you REALLY dont want to get hired 2-3 years later into this hiring cycle at the majors. That is 2,000-3,000 younger people that will be parked in front of you for the next 3+ decades. Getting the good schedules, weekends off and holidays off you will be stuck working. You think your wife and kids will care if you are a more well rounded person when you are gone every christmas and birthday? This is the reality of this industry.

For example. I had friends hired 800 numbers junior to me in a big hiring spree, only a little more than a year apart in seniority. Our last decade has been incredibly different. I bid whatever I wanted, didnt spend any time on reserve, 17- 18 days off for years. Weekends/holidays off. Upgraded nearly 4 years ahead of them. Made a lot more money while they were broke. They had years and years of reserve, horrible schedules the entire time. Worked weekends and holidays for the better part of a decade, and now they will start over way behind me at AA all over again while AA is also street hiring hundreds and hundreds of people ahead of them as well.

Originally Posted by buddies8

So basically if you apply you have a job.

Originally Posted by buddies8

So basically if you apply you have a job.

Originally Posted by Smutter

Did I read our insurance email correctly. The part where it says if our spouse has a job, access to another insurance plan, we will get a $100 surcharge on top of what we already pay?

Originally Posted by buddies8

So basically if you apply you have a job.

Originally Posted by FlameNSky

Uh no, there are still 1600 + pilots in front of a new hire today that will be flowing at a much faster rate than 15 per month. You are right in the sense that the longer it is going forward for a new hire, that time will increase as more pilots in the "15 pilots per month" group get hired before them.

That being said. The current envoy flow paradigm didn't become what it is today through one contractual negotiation. It has evolved through several negotiation periods which is why there are several distinct groups established. The AAG/envoy management didn't do this by mistake. You can expect that in a few years, perhaps during the next Section 6 negotiating period, they will suggest that the pilots hired after Oct 2013, those currently in the 15 per month group, will do up to 25 or 30 a month in exchange for whatever management wants from the pilots at the time. You will then have another group established at the flow will go back to 15 a month for someone hired after that signing date.

I don't agree with it. I don't think that as a union we should allow for a separation of employees to receive different compensation but it is what it is. A new hire today can expect to be confronted with the decision of accepting a certain contract attached to a greater flow provision or reject the contractual change and maintain the 15 flows per month.

Originally Posted by Purpleanga

Why is there this "slow down" to 15 a month later? If anything with the upcoming retirements there should be an increase in flow. The flow is obviously beneftiial to guys with good seniority there now but seems like the new guys will not move on as advertised 4 to 5 years. How do they come up with that number?