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#4141
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BOTH these post contain Classic Indicators of a textbook Narcissist. You need to post on APC and act like a big fish at your old little pond to feed into self indulgent fantasy of intelligence and importance. You think you are cool showing up at the football games with your old letterman jacket from 10 years ago. And you're right, everyone "knows" you but just not in the good way you think. You are the butt of our jokes and recipient of our pity. You are a sad old man.
Be that as it may, it won't help Envoy recruitment and that should be more of a concern then me. But, when failing elsewhere, play to your one remaining strength.........bashing eaglefly.
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#4142
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
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Holy hell man, there you go making stuff up again. How the hell did you get that I'm a victim? Your routine is obvious, I'm no victim of it.
On a brighter and more informational note, the company has added over 20 pilots to the pool today. Congratulations to them on their impending escape.
#4143
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#4145
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#4146
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I'm at the training center now. The instructors down here are discussing the difficulties we face on the line on the 145. One of the difficulties is staffing, especially the left seat. There's no cure for the left seat issue other than upgrades, and upgrades are enough to draw FO's from either the CRJ or the 175 to the 145 if that's where the upgrades are. The pay is the same no matter the fleet type. Unfortunately SJS has gripped the newhires and all they want is the 175, that leaves a big hole in the 145 staffing - but let me be clear, we're not short 145 FO's yet. Well...other than the standard low staffing Eaglevoy chooses to call "adequate".
At some point that will change and the answers are incentives to get newhires to choose the 145, or displacements.
That's where we're at. It's a possibility, but we haven't hit the decision point yet that will force a course of action. It is not currently on any radar other than the rumor mill. If it happens, the pilots will be the last to know.
At some point that will change and the answers are incentives to get newhires to choose the 145, or displacements.
That's where we're at. It's a possibility, but we haven't hit the decision point yet that will force a course of action. It is not currently on any radar other than the rumor mill. If it happens, the pilots will be the last to know.
#4147
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I'm at the training center now. The instructors down here are discussing the difficulties we face on the line on the 145. One of the difficulties is staffing, especially the left seat. There's no cure for the left seat issue other than upgrades, and upgrades are enough to draw FO's from either the CRJ or the 175 to the 145 if that's where the upgrades are. The pay is the same no matter the fleet type. Unfortunately SJS has gripped the newhires and all they want is the 175, that leaves a big hole in the 145 staffing - but let me be clear, we're not short 145 FO's yet. Well...other than the standard low staffing Eaglevoy chooses to call "adequate".
At some point that will change and the answers are incentives to get newhires to choose the 145, or displacements.
That's where we're at. It's a possibility, but we haven't hit the decision point yet that will force a course of action. It is not currently on any radar other than the rumor mill. If it happens, the pilots will be the last to know.
At some point that will change and the answers are incentives to get newhires to choose the 145, or displacements.
That's where we're at. It's a possibility, but we haven't hit the decision point yet that will force a course of action. It is not currently on any radar other than the rumor mill. If it happens, the pilots will be the last to know.
#4149
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I'm at the training center now. The instructors down here are discussing the difficulties we face on the line on the 145. One of the difficulties is staffing, especially the left seat. There's no cure for the left seat issue other than upgrades, and upgrades are enough to draw FO's from either the CRJ or the 175 to the 145 if that's where the upgrades are. The pay is the same no matter the fleet type. Unfortunately SJS has gripped the newhires and all they want is the 175, that leaves a big hole in the 145 staffing - but let me be clear, we're not short 145 FO's yet. Well...other than the standard low staffing Eaglevoy chooses to call "adequate".
At some point that will change and the answers are incentives to get newhires to choose the 145, or displacements.
That's where we're at. It's a possibility, but we haven't hit the decision point yet that will force a course of action. It is not currently on any radar other than the rumor mill. If it happens, the pilots will be the last to know.
At some point that will change and the answers are incentives to get newhires to choose the 145, or displacements.
That's where we're at. It's a possibility, but we haven't hit the decision point yet that will force a course of action. It is not currently on any radar other than the rumor mill. If it happens, the pilots will be the last to know.
Thank you for the information.
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The company will avoid a displacement until it is absolutely forced to because of the costs involved. Given the relative movement with guys flowing, resigning or upgrading there is little likelihood they will need to run a displacement. They can just adjust their staffing levels by choosing to backfill or not. Even if it got to the point of them offering $20,000 to a new hire to take the EMB145, it would still be cheaper than running a displacement.
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