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#5611
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
Displacements are simple but the company makes its really complicated. So if a displacement opens then they are forcing pilots to go to a different base or equipment. So for example the CRJs go away and all get displaced. They then choose where they want to go and will push out anyone junior to them. Those junior guys get put where no one else wants to be.
#5612
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Position: CA
Posts: 83
I also have an interview in a couple weeks and have only gotten minimal flight time in the last two years. Am I wasting my time going to envoy and interviewing if they're gonna call me back in a day and tell me I don't have enough what time? I was hired by XJT last week.
That said, I didn't settle for no. I spoke with a few people and was eventually signed off on. I was told to prep as hard as I can for sim, as I have proven to be able to learn systems no problem based on my past 141 ground school for the CRJ 200. I'm beyond grateful that I was able to speak to my passion for this industry and be considered after all.
Side note: I did the internet video interview with Mesa for the hell of it. There is ABSOLUTELY NO technical portion. I was told immediately that there would only be HR questions. 7 minutes later I was asked which jet I wanted to fly. Seriously.
Mesa DOES have training contracts now. They sent my "new hire" packet with PDF's and two of them were for ATP-CTP and ground school. $5000 prorated over 3 years for ATP-CTP and $12,780 over 1 year for their ground school. What a ****ing joke.
Edit: I understand their need for training contracts since they're now the go-to for a free type rating. That makes sense. I just hate to see them perpetuating what has kept me out of commercial aviation for over 7 years. *sigh*
#5613
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 15
It is possible but not a Guarantee. Best thing to do is to bid around it and see about moving vacation to cover when you are away. (RSV might give you more control than a line would but who knows in 6 mos from now) They open up VAC requests at the beginning of every month and show what blocks are open that you can req your unused vacation time to be moved to instead of a block you currently have.
Might be able to wiggle a PO day or a PVD if nothing else from the CPO but you are at the mercy of staffing levels and who has also made a request for the day off.
Might be able to wiggle a PO day or a PVD if nothing else from the CPO but you are at the mercy of staffing levels and who has also made a request for the day off.
#5614
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 128
Problem is if you are planning on using your vacation for the wedding, you won't have any to use. You accrue vacation time based off of how many months you worked the year before. If you are starting in December, you will be lucky to get 1 day of vacation for 2017.
There are other things that you could try. Hopefully they work with you to figure something out. Just don't bank on having a vacation to use.
There are other things that you could try. Hopefully they work with you to figure something out. Just don't bank on having a vacation to use.
#5615
The best advice I can give you is, plan a flexible weeding that you can schedule the month prior once you have your schedule or reschedule it for 2018 once you have vacation.
#5616
You start class in December, you will start flying the line around March. You will still be bottom half of the reserve list in July, you will have no vacation to bid on, you aren't likely to hold a hard line thus being in reserve. Middle of summer will likely not yield any type of additional days off that you aren't awarded on your reserve line. We have the ability to borrow from the following years vacation and by July you will have a week worth of vacation for 2018, however they are going to be denied due to staffing, specifically since you are likely to be asking for a weekend. I am not trolling you, just telling you like it's going to be.
The best advice I can give you is, plan a flexible weeding that you can schedule the month prior once you have your schedule or reschedule it for 2018 once you have vacation.
The best advice I can give you is, plan a flexible weeding that you can schedule the month prior once you have your schedule or reschedule it for 2018 once you have vacation.
#5617
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: CA
Posts: 207
#5618
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 194
#5619
Unfortunately I was there, and I can tell you the screw job WAS monumental. Homer and Co. were truly representative of the ENTIRE Simmons pilot group. The bad news was that they outnumbered all of the rest of us--so they could vote in whatever--and they did.
And the farm animals around there may NEVER walk correctly again.
#5620
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 97
A displacement bid is when the company eliminates a position either a base closure, fleet type shrinking or going away entirely. They will try to do things slowly and just stop putting people in the position but at some point they have to force people out to a new position. Assuming the crj goes to psa with additional 175 options coming online. They would displace off the crj to the 175. But it's not that simple because if a senior fo on the crj wants to go to the 145 in NY that means now a Jr fo on the 145 gets displaced to maybe ord or the 175. Its a chain reaction until the most Jr few are left with what ever position is leftover. The company doesn't like to do it since it causes many training cycles and Jr people don't like it because they get shuffled around.
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