No. He wasn't scamming the company, just made a bad judgement call and was on probation.

 

What happened exactly?


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I was there as well, and Homer and Co certainly were not representative of the "ENTIRE" Simmons pilot group, by any measure.

 

I don't feel that it is prudent to share, especially being that I am not on property yet. If I share his story, I am sure there are some here who are smart enough to figure out who he is and can look to see who he endorsed as an applicant, and now my anonymity is gone.

 

You say I give bad anvice when you tell a pilot he will likely be a line holder by next July when he is not even on property yet and could end up as bottom OFE on a shrinking status or DFL that the company plans to run very thing thus training junior CA on the right seat. If junior line holder he will likely be working weekends and less days off thus extremely hard to trade days around, PVD as one of the most junior pilots in status in the middle of summer is going to be hard to get. Weddings normally happen during the weekends and that will be the hardest days to get off as a junior line holder or middle of the pack reserve. Right now the top of the reserve list are occupied by pilots who, have been around for years. Look at DFL as an example, for October the top 5 had upgrade class dates or are bypassing upgrade and thus pilots are taking up the weekend off lines and the ones with the max amount of days in a row, you will find similar results across the entire system. Please, don't tell a new hire that he will get the time off when trading away from weekends or even shifting days for a junior line holder working 4 on 2 off on most instances isn't likely to happen, when PVDs during summer time are extremely hard to get specially for a junior pilot, when even if a new hire could hold a line but bids reserve isn't likely to hold their top choice or even second. Don't set him and his wife to be for disappointments and headaches. We don't even know who the CP Ian going to be in ORD next July but we do know that staffing is likely to be tight and currently is very hard to get those things you advertise.

 

I won't disagree with much of what you said but never did I say he'd likely be a line holder...I said he'd be bottom line holder at best most likely reserve. Even still I am POSITIVE the CP office will work with individuals in these types of cases to swap, drop, PO, PVD, whatever to make it to your own wedding. The only caveat to that would be if him or others are constantly trying to scam scheduling or the CP office and make a bad name for themselves, then in that case you won't get any help.

But you're right with the unknown of the CP and how we're all but certain staffing will be tight but rsv or lineholder, as long as him (or others) attempt bid to get it off, attempt trades, and if all else fails contact the powers that be with plenty of notice they will ABSOLUTELY work with people for events like a wedding for your own self to have off.

 

I would definitely talk to the CP as soon as he meet him.

The best way is to talk months in advanced, they will work with him.

 

There's way too much supposition going on here about schedules as a newhire. Envoy is all over the place as far as the amount of new pilots coming on board. Yes, things have improved, but fluctuations are absolutely still possible. It also depends on what plans management has as far as which equipment gets the new bodies and which bases they go to. Sure, a newbie could wind up a lineholder in pretty short order, but they could also wind up stuck near the bottom on reserve as management prioritizes other equipment and bases. Also, PO/PVD/drops are still very difficult to get. I think I've only got two this year and I put in for a lot that were all denied. Trading is great as a lineholder, but forget trying to swap reserve days.

Life as a new pilot at a regional is difficult and often frustrating when it comes to scheduling. And yes, I've heard many people having hard times getting days off for important events, though that partly may be because sometimes they couldn't schedule the events themselves or far enough in advance.

The best advice is to get in the CPO right away with your request(s) as far in advance as possible. They should work with you as far as the wedding goes.

 

Well, I have to admit that is true--there were a few decent Simmons people-I was Wings West, and it was open season on us from the get go. Unreal that that 16 year fiasco was voted in. Lots of folks hate ALPA because of it. Thankfully, I'm not in that game now. Blood pressure much lower, sleep much better at home every night, or with my family if we're on a trip somewhere.

good luck to all--

 

Getting married and starting a new job at a regional? Congratulations, and good luck man! Seriously!