Originally Posted by 271c (Post 2246573)

Oops-- I wasn't very clear. The issue we had was at the Envoy HQ during systems, etc. when trying to get to DFW. Uber would only let you choose a terminal for pickup based on being GPS-located "at the airport." And cabs were equally difficult. We didn't try Lyft though -- will try that next time!

Originally Posted by 402FreightDog (Post 2246578)

Hope to start class in February and get the 175. I have some free time on my hands waiting at the FBO. Anyone have anything they can suggest I study? General subjects and aircraft specific. Hoping this old freight dog can learn some new tricks.

Originally Posted by cbrittle (Post 2246625)

How long does it take to get your permanent company and KCM ID ? My last company did not want us to JS until after training. What is Envoy's position?

Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2246496)

I am coming from Michigan as well in January and am thinking of bring my car for at least one of the two longer parts down there. I will see what happens when sim time comes. I want to be able to go to the gym and get around a bit.

Originally Posted by TrinityDawn (Post 2246024)

If the airlines really are your second career, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here. Are you familiar with the concept of portability of labor? In every other industry, highly trained individuals have the ability to ask for market wages commensurate with their education, record, and years of experience should they choose to switch job locations or employers. Due to the incomplete deregulation of our industry and the unionization, airline pilots don't have that ability. As you are finding out by switching airlines, one has to start over from the beginning. When you get 5 or 10 years of your life INVESTED in an airline, switching employers isn't nearly as easy as you suggest.



If you really do have previous experience in business, then you of all people should understand that a truly successful business is dependant on happy and productive employees. Unfortunately, due to the adversarial nature of the airline industry as a whole, the inadequacy of the RLA to address modern issues in a timely fashion, and the attitude of US Air and now AAG management toward their own employees, there is a deep rift at envoy between management and the front line employees. CR700's dismissive attitude toward those of us that dare challenge his narrative is a prime example of this. Instead of even pretending to care about the concerns of employees and addressing them, he simply calls us liars. Why do myself and others come on to APC at all? Because we have tried to bring our concerns to management through normal and union channels, and this is the attitude we encounter. We're told that things like QOL aren't really an issue, because "no one is complaining except for the vocal minority" when in reality, the average front line employees have simply given up hope that management is listening. I'm here because I refuse to stand by and let people like CR700 lie through omission to new hires. Anyone that is prepared to invest several years of their life working here needs to understand what they are getting themselves into, and have the whole picture.



I also suppose I have some fleeting hope that I'll push enough buttons that someone at Centerport or envoy headquarters leaves their cubical long enough to talk to the people they are supposed to be leading. Did you know that envoy doesn't even conduct exit interviews to find out WHY employees are leaving?

Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2246687)

I don't know how I missed this post. Right on, Trin. I never knew this until now, but a fairly new FO told me that there are probation guys making lateral moves. ***? Wake up, management!!! What you are doing is not working!


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