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#6792
#6793
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2022
Position: CFI
Posts: 11

I'm in my last 50 hours as a CFI and I have 3 CJO, ENDEAVOR, PSA, and ENVOY, what I really want is to work for a WO carrier, I know flows are not realistic in the current state of the industry? but I was wondering if you were in my shoes, what Regional will you choose and why? I'll be commuting to any of their bases. so base is not a big factor for me yet, I'm planning on commuting for 6 months (end of my current lease) and then I'll be probably moving to base.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
#6794

I'm in my last 50 hours as a CFI and I have 3 CJO, ENDEAVOR, PSA, and ENVOY, what I really want is to work for a WO carrier, I know flows are not realistic in the current state of the industry? but I was wondering if you were in my shoes, what Regional will you choose and why? I'll be commuting to any of their bases. so base is not a big factor for me yet, I'm planning on commuting for 6 months (end of my current lease) and then I'll be probably moving to base.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
If/when your regional stalls out and comes apart, use the hours you’ve got to leverage the next job. If it’s only a couple hundred, go ACMI and fly big iron overseas for awhile. If 500 or more you ought to be able to land an LCC/ULCC position. Fly your butt off, build hours, and keep your apps current for the career airline(s) of your choice.
Every year you stagnate anywhere puts 800 people ahead of you at your career employer FOR THE REST OF YOUR CAREER. Ease up when you have the final seniority number - not before.
#6795
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Position: Feeder of Amber
Posts: 229

I'm in my last 50 hours as a CFI and I have 3 CJO, ENDEAVOR, PSA, and ENVOY, what I really want is to work for a WO carrier, I know flows are not realistic in the current state of the industry? but I was wondering if you were in my shoes, what Regional will you choose and why? I'll be commuting to any of their bases. so base is not a big factor for me yet, I'm planning on commuting for 6 months (end of my current lease) and then I'll be probably moving to base.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
#6796

I'm in my last 50 hours as a CFI and I have 3 CJO, ENDEAVOR, PSA, and ENVOY, what I really want is to work for a WO carrier, I know flows are not realistic in the current state of the industry? but I was wondering if you were in my shoes, what Regional will you choose and why? I'll be commuting to any of their bases. so base is not a big factor for me yet, I'm planning on commuting for 6 months (end of my current lease) and then I'll be probably moving to base.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
the answer then becomes avoid the regional they own. They seem to prefer poaching pilots from the other guys wholly owned.
then, base closest to home with easiest drive, trip, flight to work. Avoiding being a commuter is the single biggest quality of life improvement there is, other than getting out of the regionals.
once you pass IOE immediately begin applying at the LCC’s, ACMI’s and the legacies.
once hired at a regional and passing training at the regional your number one job is to get out of the regionals.
#6797
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2022
Position: E175 Line FO
Posts: 64

For Envoy I would not worry about 145 assignment at this point. If you look at the "class drop" thread there have been no 145 assignments for new hires in 2022. The 5/16 indoc class was the largest in a while and they still didn't have any 145s.
The people have been really great both the training staff and fellow students. The students in the program a week or two ahead of me have been super cool in sharing knowledge and gouges.
(not all instructors are the same, but as a group we can get through, enjoy the good ones and survive the challenging ones)
There is no perfect solution. Just get to a 121, get through class, and get to flying. I am pleased with my Envoy experience. You might love another.
The people have been really great both the training staff and fellow students. The students in the program a week or two ahead of me have been super cool in sharing knowledge and gouges.
(not all instructors are the same, but as a group we can get through, enjoy the good ones and survive the challenging ones)
There is no perfect solution. Just get to a 121, get through class, and get to flying. I am pleased with my Envoy experience. You might love another.
I'm in my last 50 hours as a CFI and I have 3 CJO, ENDEAVOR, PSA, and ENVOY, what I really want is to work for a WO carrier, I know flows are not realistic in the current state of the industry? but I was wondering if you were in my shoes, what Regional will you choose and why? I'll be commuting to any of their bases. so base is not a big factor for me yet, I'm planning on commuting for 6 months (end of my current lease) and then I'll be probably moving to base.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
my head is divided:
ENDEAVOR: best pay but I hear if you get the CRJ-200 is a death sentence.
ENVOY: nice pay good bonus but I really don't want the ERJ145, bases are the best
PSA: Gets ready of the CRJ-200 or ERJ145 problem, but I hear they are over staff, and bases are not great,
So any objective advice will be help full.
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