Envoy Lies
#31
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Here is Rick's latest:
"With very reasonable assumptions, a new hire today is currently projected to upgrade to Captain in two and a half years – and flow to American approximately six years from hire."
I think your reading comprehension needs to be examined.
A...new...hire...TODAY...is...currently...projecte d...
Not someone hired 3 years ago.
"With very reasonable assumptions, a new hire today is currently projected to upgrade to Captain in two and a half years – and flow to American approximately six years from hire."
I think your reading comprehension needs to be examined.
A...new...hire...TODAY...is...currently...projecte d...
Not someone hired 3 years ago.
#32
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Not to take away from your epic rant, but you decided to be on reserve in December, there were more than a handful junior to a May of 2013 hire, that held a line in all bases and equipment.
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Bottom line is that if things were as bad as he claims he could have left long ago. By his own admission leaving Envoy for another Regional would be worse. So what exactly is the point of this thread? Just the epic rant of a very angry little person with a frustrated life.
#34
Did someone get his whittle feelings hurt?
BTW: If I'm an envoy police officer... that would make you part of the Ex Wives Club, wouldn't it?
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From: Feito no Brasil, CA
Your frustration is understandable. You realize though you just put a bulls-eye on yourself for saying this, yes ? The facts you present don't matter to a small, but quite savage pack of jackals here as it is not in-line with their interests. That being said, I think both the upgrade and flow will likely happen in the future for you if you stay long enough, just not in the timelines being suggested, especially the upgrade.
Good Luck on wherever the future takes you.
Good Luck on wherever the future takes you.
What a load of carp.
A pop up poster, long-time lurker with nothing good to say pops up and the second vulture lands on the tree next to him with a friendly cackle.
People who frequent this board are illiterate, or as eaglefly is so fond of stating, they ignore everything that doesn't fit their conspiratorial agenda.
Anybody with half a brain can search these boards and find out exactly why the projections are what they are, the associated potential points of failure, and what reality will most likely deliver.
No s hi t there's no 2.5 year upgrade. Quit and get re-hired so you can restart the clock and get it. NOBODY hired last year will see a 2.5 year upgrade. NOBODY.
MAYBE some hired in 2016 will.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Anybody make some extra popcorn? No, never mind. I've seen this movie before and it sucks.
#36
Damn it, AMF! I told you to post that after dinner. You were too quick. Now everyone is going to know the super secret conspiracy that eaglefly was so smart to have already figured out, the clandestine branch of the Secret Service charged with ensuring the belief in aliens and envoy's flow. We are doing really well on the aliens thing but we are really dropping the ball on envoy. Darn, eaglefly and his super intelligence.
#37
Hey look it's bzzt reincarnated! Anybody remember reading that guy *****ing about his life decisions and how Eagle didn't live up to his expectations? What ever happened to him anyway? I hope he found happiness
I think it's a good thing that this guy transformed into a poster from a lurker. It's important to have a balance between the kool aid drinkers and the nay-sayers that actually work at Envoy. Now back to lurking for me
I think it's a good thing that this guy transformed into a poster from a lurker. It's important to have a balance between the kool aid drinkers and the nay-sayers that actually work at Envoy. Now back to lurking for me
#38
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Two. I bid reserve lines with Christmas off first to be home with my kid.
#39
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I think your situational awareness skills need to be examined. He can PROJECT all he wants. If he doesn't upgrade 700 plus pilots from FO to Capt by mid to late 2017, there ain't gonna be a 2.5 year upgrade for a new hire TODAY. If you are an Envoy guy, pull the seniority list yourself and see. It's BLACK and WHITE. There's no way possible for it to happen unless you see 700 plus upgrades over the next eighteen months.
They may or may not put out the vacancies.
However, 700 upgrades over 18 months equals just over 38/month. The training center is quite capable of those numbers as they had well in excess of that every month in 2011.
It's far from "black and white" as you put it.
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What a load of carp.
A pop up poster, long-time lurker with nothing good to say pops up and the second vulture lands on the tree next to him with a friendly cackle.
People who frequent this board are illiterate, or as eaglefly is so fond of stating, they ignore everything that doesn't fit their conspiratorial agenda.
Anybody with half a brain can search these boards and find out exactly why the projections are what they are, the associated potential points of failure, and what reality will most likely deliver.
No s hi t there's no 2.5 year upgrade. Quit and get re-hired so you can restart the clock and get it. NOBODY hired last year will see a 2.5 year upgrade. NOBODY.
MAYBE some hired in 2016 will.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Anybody make some extra popcorn? No, never mind. I've seen this movie before and it sucks.
A pop up poster, long-time lurker with nothing good to say pops up and the second vulture lands on the tree next to him with a friendly cackle.
People who frequent this board are illiterate, or as eaglefly is so fond of stating, they ignore everything that doesn't fit their conspiratorial agenda.
Anybody with half a brain can search these boards and find out exactly why the projections are what they are, the associated potential points of failure, and what reality will most likely deliver.
No s hi t there's no 2.5 year upgrade. Quit and get re-hired so you can restart the clock and get it. NOBODY hired last year will see a 2.5 year upgrade. NOBODY.
MAYBE some hired in 2016 will.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Anybody make some extra popcorn? No, never mind. I've seen this movie before and it sucks.
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