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Old 04-18-2017 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoMic
New guy question here...I need to commute out of Alaska for one or two years until some things get settled.

Are you in the witness protection program? Youll have like a day a week with your loved ones. Don't even do it.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 06:13 PM
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Currently 9E thinking about jumping to ENY. What are the minimum requirements for upgrade aside from the 1000 SIC? Here at 9E they've been waiving the company minimums on occasion for prior 121. Would my prior 121 time speed up my eligibility for upgrade?
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Old 04-18-2017 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Are you in the witness protection program? Youll have like a day a week with your loved ones. Don't even do it.
I wondered the same thing. Commuting from ANC isn't going to help anything get settled.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 07:34 PM
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We aren't against moving in the near future to make the job and family life a lot easier, but we can't for the next year or two. In the mean time I'm just trying to find the best solution to make the commute as tolerable as possible. A direct flight to Chicago takes 6 hours but I think the options to get there are limited. Direct flights to DFW are available in the summer Via AAG and take just over 6 hours but the rest of the year it will take more like 9hrs unless I can jump on a FEDEX flight if they even run direct to DFW... I'm just hoping someone out there has some intel that can help out. Thanks for not flaming me; I swear I'm not a troll. I can't say that I'm happy that you've just confirmed my reason for being nervous about the commute and this transition, though.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoMic
We aren't against moving in the near future to make the job and family life a lot easier, but we can't for the next year or two. In the mean time I'm just trying to find the best solution to make the commute as tolerable as possible. A direct flight to Chicago takes 6 hours but I think the options to get there are limited. Direct flights to DFW are available in the summer Via AAG and take just over 6 hours but the rest of the year it will take more like 9hrs unless I can jump on a FEDEX flight if they even run direct to DFW... I'm just hoping someone out there has some intel that can help out. Thanks for not flaming me; I swear I'm not a troll. I can't say that I'm happy that you've just confirmed my reason for being nervous about the commute and this transition, though.
You're pretty much out of luck. I think the best route would be to try west coast regionals if you're commuting to Alaska. Otherwise it's just seasonal non stops or painful connections out of SEA. Even then you're still commuting. It's not really advisable even if you're within the same time zone. It robs you of quality of life and what precious time off you get.
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:21 PM
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People, Skyvector's information is not entirely accurate so please act accordingly. Most of the things he has said are the "hopes" or the "wishes" of Envoy Management and not necessarily based in fact or reality. This tells me that he is either a management lackey or is being used by one.

The notes on the EMB145/140's are paid off and fuel prices are still relatively cheap. AAG wants all of the AAG-owned EMB145's and EMB140's flying, which includes the 50ish EMB140's stored in SJT. But can Envoy staff them? Not currently. What does that mean? Who knows. Envoy Management wants Envoy to fly these airplanes....but if they cannot staff them will AAG find another airline to do the flying? Again, questions we do not know the answers to currently.

The Compass 20 E-175's that are AAG owned are on contract through late 2019. Envoy Management (again, I emphasize Envoy Management) wants those aircraft at Envoy. Will that happen? Again, that is up to AAG and there is still plenty of time for them to make or change any decision on the matter.

Envoy Management has told the Association (as recently as last week) that an MIA domicile will not happen. Also, Envoy Management is no longer interested in the Satellite Domicile LOAs that were negotiated over the course of 2015 and 2016. They want something entirely new and is being negotiated currently.

We have not been told to expect any specific domiciles that would be considered to be opened. Envoy Management does want the ability to open/close any future domicile's more easily than the current contract dictates, hence the reason they are negotiating. Envoy Management wants the Company to be more flexible and that means they want to more easily open smaller domiciles when AAG tells them to jump. They also want the ability to close that domicile just as easily since they do not know how long they will be operating feed out of that domicile. Neither PHX, nor PHL, nor LAX are being discussed at this time as possibilities on the horizon.

Again, anyone who throws information around and claims it to be fact or claims to be "in the know" like Skyvector does should be ashamed of themselves. If you have any questions or doubts, contact your local union representative.

Skyvector - you know my email address. Send me an email if you want to clear this up. Thanks.


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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier
People, Skyvector's information is not entirely accurate so please act accordingly. Most of the things he has said are the "hopes" or the "wishes" of Envoy Management and not necessarily based in fact or reality. This tells me that he is either a management lackey or is being used by one.



The notes on the EMB145/140's are paid off and fuel prices are still relatively cheap. AAG wants all of the AAG-owned EMB145's and EMB140's flying, which includes the 50ish EMB140's stored in SJT. But can Envoy staff them? Not currently. What does that mean? Who knows. Envoy Management wants Envoy to fly these airplanes....but if they cannot staff them will AAG find another airline to do the flying? Again, questions we do not know the answers to currently.



The Compass 20 E-175's that are AAG owned are on contract through late 2019. Envoy Management (again, I emphasize Envoy Management) wants those aircraft at Envoy. Will that happen? Again, that is up to AAG and there is still plenty of time for them to make or change any decision on the matter.



Envoy Management has told the Association (as recently as last week) that an MIA domicile will not happen. Also, Envoy Management is no longer interested in the Satellite Domicile LOAs that were negotiated over the course of 2015 and 2016. They want something entirely new and is being negotiated currently.



We have not been told to expect any specific domiciles that would be considered to be opened. Envoy Management does want the ability to open/close any future domicile's more easily than the current contract dictates, hence the reason they are negotiating. Envoy Management wants the Company to be more flexible and that means they want to more easily open smaller domiciles when AAG tells them to jump. They also want the ability to close that domicile just as easily since they do not know how long they will be operating feed out of that domicile. Neither PHX, nor PHL, nor LAX are being discussed at this time as possibilities on the horizon.



Again, anyone who throws information around land claims it to be fact or claim to be "in the know" like Skyvector does should be ashamed of themselves. If you have any questions or doubts, contact your local union representative.



Skyvector - you know my email address. Send me an email if you want to clear this up. Thanks.





Neal Spanier

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Welp.. there it is, str8 from the horse's mouth. South FL would have been a nice thing to happen.


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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Oskie305
Welp.. there it is, str8 from the horse's mouth. South FL would have been a nice thing to happen.


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Yea what gave it away was when the guy kept saying he was in between flights trying to find time to post here. K....
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Old 04-18-2017 | 08:50 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up Neal. We all knew that was too good to be true.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 12:09 AM
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Edit: never mind. Not worth it. The proof is in the pudding, as they say.
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