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Old 04-19-2017 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
Wow. Thats kind of low.
Dang it, just when I call you a tool, you go and say that.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by moon
I think everyone understands that nothing is written in stone, I like the idea of being able to hear what are some ideas from management. It's better than being left in the dark. If it's all propaganda than it shouldnt be mentioned, but if they are actively working on some of these things isn't it good for the pilot group to be kept in the loop?
Agreed 100%. The pilot group should be kept in the loop. I have asked the MEC OFFICERS including Sam Pool repeatedly to let the pilots know what Management wants in terms of these recent negotiations.

Keep in mind that these new negotiations just started about a month ago, so they are relatively new discussions. Prior to that, the Company said they were content with the status quo.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by criticalaoa
This is such a mess. I don't think skyvector did anything wrong here. At least it gives us a glimpse of what is going on. The union had kept us in the dark and at least it gives us a little hope that our airline might be going in a different direction.
Skyvector is a union stooge or a management lackey, or is being used by one. If he transmitted his information with facts and not opinions or hopes then I wouldn't have a problem with it. The problem with his posts is that it gives false hope to several who cling to their own hopes or aspirations.

Skyvector is a troll hiding behind a keyboard. He wouldn't dare spread this information with his actual name attached to the tag line.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier
Agreed 100%. The pilot group should be kept in the loop. I have asked the MEC OFFICERS including Sam Pool repeatedly to let the pilots know what Management wants in terms of these recent negotiations.

Keep in mind that these new negotiations just started about a month ago, so they are relatively new discussions. Prior to that, the Company said they were content with the status quo.
I think we are all curious as to what the negotiations entail. I do understand that we don't want to negotiate against ourselves online though, but we should know so we can engage the union and have a voice in the matter.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 02:01 PM
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Bids for the EMJ in LGA are getting worked on. Many of us who were signed off in plenty of time in LGA didn't have our status changed so we weren't awarded lines. Hopefully tomorrow afternoon their will be resolution.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup
Why would you not consider horizon air?
Pay for one (if my research is correct things aren't great at Horizon right now). The main reason, however, is that I'm transitioning from helicopters and at the time Envoy was the only company that not only welcomed my Part 135 Heli and Military experience but also offered to pay my transition costs.

I also like the idea of being able to flow to American at some point in the future. My understanding of the training here is that it is top notch, which is important to me, and I am looking forward to a flying position where safety isn't just a slogan (although I can only assume Horizon does well there too). Finally, I'm not opposed to moving to Texas in the future if I can get based there but we just can't do it quite yet.

I'm excited about the transition -and- a little nervous about the long commute. Any help would be much appreciated. I'll be talking to a couple of my friends at FEDEX and try and get dialed in on their schedules...maybe that will help.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoMic
Pay for one (if my research is correct things aren't great at Horizon right now). The main reason, however, is that I'm transitioning from helicopters and at the time Envoy was the only company that not only welcomed my Part 135 Heli and Military experience but also offered to pay my transition costs.

I also like the idea of being able to flow to American at some point in the future. My understanding of the training here is that it is top notch, which is important to me, and I am looking forward to a flying position where safety isn't just a slogan (although I can only assume Horizon does well there too). Finally, I'm not opposed to moving to Texas in the future if I can get based there but we just can't do it quite yet.

I'm excited about the transition -and- a little nervous about the long commute. Any help would be much appreciated. I'll be talking to a couple of my friends at FEDEX and try and get dialed in on their schedules...maybe that will help.
Yeah horizon just reached a deal for bounuses and new pay. Also, they are getting E175's. I know you may think that coming to envoy may the right move but commuting from Alaska, you and your family won't last a year. It's hard enough on families just to commute to ORD or LGA from DFW. If you are single with no friends or family, I'd say go for it. If your not, I would definitely consider Horizon for 2 years then come to envoy when you move to Texas. I know the training for fixed wing is a big part of it as well so I understand where you are coming from, but it's not worth losing your family over. It would be like you being on deployment for 2 years for the most part. Envoy scheduling will have no sympathy for you and your family.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 04:17 PM
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Any RTP guys interview with Envoy lately? Have mine coming up and just wondering the latest experiences
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Old 04-19-2017 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier
Skyvector is a union stooge or a management lackey, or is being used by one. If he transmitted his information with facts and not opinions or hopes then I wouldn't have a problem with it. The problem with his posts is that it gives false hope to several who cling to their own hopes or aspirations.

Skyvector is a troll hiding behind a keyboard. He wouldn't dare spread this information with his actual name attached to the tag line.
I think you're being a little overdramatic. Most of the things Skyvector said have been spreading around the schoolhouse for the last week or two anyway. I'm not sure what false hopes and aspirations you're referring to but I really don't think what he posted is causing current pilots to pass on another legacy because were stocking up on 140's and 175's or new hires to magically come here based on rumors of a PHX or PHL base.
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Old 04-19-2017 | 09:58 PM
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