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04-14-2017, 07:18 PM

#2351

ORDinary

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Originally Posted by SheepDogg

Not if its a new base, 150 days.

I haven't seen that anywhere in the contract. Can you share your source?

04-14-2017, 08:00 PM

#2352

NealSpanier

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Dacuj

Hopefully Envoy pilots know better than to trust an internet personality who hides behind a keyboard. I've read several of Dacuj's posts and he's a Company-lovin' troll who is intent on misleading people about Envoy and Envoy's future.

If any pilot wants the truth, pick up the phone and call your union representative. Or better yet, come to the DFW LEC 083 Meeting on April 28th and we can share recent updates.

04-14-2017, 08:02 PM

#2353

NealSpanier

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Originally Posted by ORDinary

I haven't seen that anywhere in the contract. Can you share your source?

CBA 15.A.1 I believe.

04-15-2017, 04:46 AM

#2354

ORDinary

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Originally Posted by NealSpanier

CBA 15.A.1 I believe.

I will check it out. I thought 150 days was for seasonal vacancies.

04-15-2017, 05:04 AM

#2355

ORDinary

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Originally Posted by NealSpanier

CBA 15.A.1 I believe.

"A temporary vacancy is one that exists for ninety (90) days or less and is created by pilot attrition, leaves of absence, sick leave, or the Company's pilot training requirements. A temporary vacancy may be extended up to one hundred fifty (150) days only if a permanent vacancy for that position has been awarded by the 90th day."

I didn't realize we had a permanent vacancy already, I guess that does allow them to extend it to 150. It doesn't have anything to do with opening a new domicile, however. In fact, none of "pilot attrition, leaves of absence, sick leave, or the Company's pilot training requirements" caused these TDYs. So it looks like they should have run a permanent displacement.

04-15-2017, 07:03 AM

#2356

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I hear they opened up a bid for crew bases. 50 spots open for LGA FOs, none for DFW. Is it no longer likely to get dfw a couple months after training?

04-15-2017, 07:24 AM

#2357

DilsonWic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yeahbutstill

I hear they opened up a bid for crew bases. 50 spots open for LGA FOs, none for DFW. Is it no longer likely to get dfw a couple months after training?

I may not fully understand this, but no. That's not what this last vacancy means.

None of us know when or what the next bid will hold, but if I was a betting man, on the 145 you can get to DFW quick.

04-15-2017, 07:51 AM

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Purpleanga

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Originally Posted by yeahbutstill

I hear they opened up a bid for crew bases. 50 spots open for LGA FOs, none for DFW. Is it no longer likely to get dfw a couple months after training?

Nobody knows. Only thing for sure is new hires will go to LGA. That's why I say recruitment will suffer. I don't really know why anyone would spend time in NY to get back to ORD or DFW when there's other airlines hiring for those bases.

Last edited by Purpleanga; 04-15-2017 at 08:02 AM.

04-15-2017, 08:08 AM

#2359

lakehouse

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Originally Posted by Purpleanga

Well most people are getting DFW by the end of training or a month after. I guess some guys can commute for one single month to get all the benefits of envoy.