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Old 04-15-2017 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Nobody knows. Only thing for sure is new hires will go to LGA. That's why I say recruitment will suffer. I don't really know why anyone would spend time in NY to get back to ORD or DFW when there's other airlines hiring for those bases.
Who else outside of Mesa is hiring straight into DFW?
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Old 04-15-2017 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
"A temporary vacancy is one that exists for ninety (90) days or less and is created by pilot attrition, leaves of absence, sick leave, or the Company's pilot training requirements. A temporary vacancy may be extended up to one hundred fifty (150) days only if a permanent vacancy for that position has been awarded by the 90th day."

I didn't realize we had a permanent vacancy already, I guess that does allow them to extend it to 150. It doesn't have anything to do with opening a new domicile, however. In fact, none of "pilot attrition, leaves of absence, sick leave, or the Company's pilot training requirements" caused these TDYs. So it looks like they should have run a permanent displacement.
They could easily claim that the need is because of "Company pilot training requirements". They would rather have all the bases staffed appropriately and not TDY (paying endless hotels and per diem). They just haven't managed to train everyone who has been awarded NCE yet.
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Old 04-15-2017 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by lakehouse
Well most people are getting DFW by the end of training or a month after. I guess some guys can commute for one single month to get all the benefits of envoy.
Just saying there's going to be a lot of growth in NY with stagnant or shrinking ORD and DFW.
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Old 04-15-2017 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier
Hopefully Envoy pilots know better than to trust an internet personality who hides behind a keyboard. I've read several of Dacuj's posts and he's a Company-lovin' troll who is intent on misleading people about Envoy and Envoy's future.



If any pilot wants the truth, pick up the phone and call your union representative. Or better yet, come to the DFW LEC 083 Meeting on April 28th and we can share recent updates.


Hey Neal, will you have minutes or correspondence going over what was asked and shared about company related updates posted afterwards? I want to attend but I'll be out in MIA working a trip.


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Old 04-15-2017 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980
Hey Neal, will you have minutes or correspondence going over what was asked and shared about company related updates posted afterwards? I want to attend but I'll be out in MIA working a trip.


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Yes. Gladly.
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Old 04-15-2017 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
The next TDY from ORD to LGA will be a contract violation, since TDY's are supposed to be for 90 days or less.
Does it suck to be wrong so often?
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Old 04-15-2017 | 12:47 PM
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Does one hour of company time still count as 2 to bid for an upgrade?
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Old 04-15-2017 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Just saying there's going to be a lot of growth in NY with stagnant or shrinking ORD and DFW.
DFW doesn't seem very stagnant right now. It goes in choices and next plan change it could be ny taking the brunt. I mean I lived through it entirely closing. I realize big time it sucks for Ord right now but it's how the shoe is falling right now. Plans change fast. Be happy we have fast movement going on to make it alot less painful. Also at least you still have a base, I've lived through worst.
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Old 04-15-2017 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LongTimeListenr
Does it suck to be wrong so often?
That stings, man. Your opinion is so important to me.
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Old 04-15-2017 | 03:35 PM
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As long as hiring keeps up then time to DFW will be low. There isn't any stagnation going on in any equipment/base.

I doubt they will slow down hiring into the 175. They will likely keep the training going and stay a head of the curve.(I HOPE)
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