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Old 04-15-2017, 04:22 PM
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Question guys...do you know what are the ramification policies with envoy, like do you guys sign any contract while FO training, i am still in the pipeline instructor programm but i was asking myself what if i decided to leave for another regional??
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Old 04-15-2017, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsch View Post
Sounds like hiring into the 175 is slowing down to me......Numbers from the new hire class on 4/10.
I see this more of a regression to the mean rather than an indication of a future trend.

You can't use one data point to identify a trend.
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Old 04-15-2017, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier View Post
Hopefully Envoy pilots know better than to trust an internet personality who hides behind a keyboard. I've read several of Dacuj's posts and he's a Company-lovin' troll who is intent on misleading people about Envoy and Envoy's future.

If any pilot wants the truth, pick up the phone and call your union representative. Or better yet, come to the DFW LEC 083 Meeting on April 28th and we can share recent updates.
In union gatherings and conferences expect the union representative to start almost all statements with....

We hope
Hopefully
Ideally
We think
It's our understanding

....And also repeating a bunch of baseless rumors like new bases, compass airplanes, etc etc. If I have 5 things to do on April 28th, going to the meeting will be #6. For the first time in my professional career I work in a unionized work force and never made less.
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Old 04-15-2017, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga View Post
Nobody knows. Only thing for sure is new hires will go to LGA. That's why I say recruitment will suffer. I don't really know why anyone would spend time in NY to get back to ORD or DFW when there's other airlines hiring for those bases.
A rather short term view on a long term proposition.
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Inop2 View Post
In union gatherings and conferences expect the union representative to start almost all statements with....

We hope
Hopefully
Ideally
We think
It's our understanding

....And also repeating a bunch of baseless rumors like new bases, compass airplanes, etc etc. If I have 5 things to do on April 28th, going to the meeting will be #6. For the first time in my professional career I work in a unionized work force and never made less.
Then you don't know me very well.

I will discuss what management has told us, what management wants from us, and ask YOU for YOUR feedback. Facts as I know them. No rumor, no spin......just as I have always conducted myself.
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ouardanio View Post
Question guys...do you know what are the ramification policies with envoy, like do you guys sign any contract while FO training, i am still in the pipeline instructor programm but i was asking myself what if i decided to leave for another regional??
If you sign to get the pre-hire bonus, then you sign a 2 year contract. If you leave before the 2 years is up, you are required to pay part of the bonus back.
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pcruz28 View Post
Does one hour of company time still count as 2 to bid for an upgrade?
No. With no explanation, the Company removed that policy.
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier View Post
No. With no explanation, the Company removed that policy.
Makes sense because I couldn't find it in the FM1 anymore.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier View Post
Then you don't know me very well.

I will discuss what management has told us, what management wants from us, and ask YOU for YOUR feedback. Facts as I know them. No rumor, no spin......just as I have always conducted myself.
Hey Neal. When will the first selection from the Protected Pilot list be made?
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NealSpanier View Post
No. With no explanation, the Company removed that policy.
That provision is in the contract, Not FM-1. Still there.
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