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Old 04-24-2017, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DollaBillz View Post
Yes, that's the point. Most 26 year olds getting hired by the regionals are just happy to be a pilot in an airliner, so it doesn't make sense to give them priority over an old guy that has more stuff going on and needs greater flexibility/choices as far as base goes.
That was a joke.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:50 PM
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Probably not going to happen but they need to change the class seniority to social sec number instead of age like at some other places so it's more fair for everyone because it's random. Why do you have to be 40 and above or a certain age to get what you want? Because you have less useful time left in aviation? When your on the line you go by seniority not age.
Get over yourself. It's an airplane. Does it really matter what one you get? Seriously? At the end of the day you're a regional driver, and just because your engines hang from the wings doesn't mean that your peers think your a superior pilot. I'm 35 and got the 145 and paycheck is the same as the guys on the 175 and nobody cares. SJS at its finest...
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:51 PM
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Get over yourself. It's an airplane. Does it really matter what one you get? Seriously? At the end of the day you're a regional driver, and just because your engines hang from the wings doesn't mean that your peers think your a superior pilot. I'm 35 and got the 145 and paycheck is the same as the guys on the 175 and nobody cares. SJS at its finest...
SJS? It's a difference between commuting to NY or driving to your hometown airport.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:55 PM
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I know you left an airline that was supposedly so great.
I said the class seniority was great because it was random.
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader View Post
Get over yourself. It's an airplane. Does it really matter what one you get? Seriously? At the end of the day you're a regional driver, and just because your engines hang from the wings doesn't mean that your peers think your a superior pilot. I'm 35 and got the 145 and paycheck is the same as the guys on the 175 and nobody cares. SJS at its finest...
Paycheck is NOT the same. You got an extra 5k....
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:21 PM
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SJS? It's a difference between commuting to NY or driving to your hometown airport.
Yes...and most of the 20 something year olds that make up the majority of the class have been flight instructing either at their college or some other joint where they're not originally from. They don't have a "hometown." Most of them are going to have to move regardless of the base they get, and most of them don't have wives, kids, mortgages, or other commitments that make moving tougher. So it's just common sense that the old guys that are more likely to have conditions that necessitate a certain base pick first and the 20somethings that are going to have to move anyway get the scraps. I would actually feel bad if a guy with three kids and a mortgage in a DFW suburb that really really needed DFW has to commute to ORD because I got randomly assigned to pick ahead of him and picked DFW when I can just pack all of my earthly possessions in a 4'x8' Uhaul trailer and am willing to move anywhere to live at base.

I get it, random is technically the "fairest" way to do it, but I think it's just good practice to go by age.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga View Post
Dude that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about age in class. Most other places let you choose equipment or base. Since Envoy doesn't it should be more random vs age.
Please be sure to complain about this to your 20-year Captain who is doing involuntary TDY in NY, I'm sure they'll lend a sympathetic ear.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:38 AM
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Please be sure to complain about this to your 20-year Captain who is doing involuntary TDY in NY, I'm sure they'll lend a sympathetic ear.
He can elect to flow now if he wishes.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DollaBillz View Post
Yes...and most of the 20 something year olds that make up the majority of the class have been flight instructing either at their college or some other joint where they're not originally from. They don't have a "hometown." Most of them are going to have to move regardless of the base they get, and most of them don't have wives, kids, mortgages, or other commitments that make moving tougher. So it's just common sense that the old guys that are more likely to have conditions that necessitate a certain base pick first and the 20somethings that are going to have to move anyway get the scraps. I would actually feel bad if a guy with three kids and a mortgage in a DFW suburb that really really needed DFW has to commute to ORD because I got randomly assigned to pick ahead of him and picked DFW when I can just pack all of my earthly possessions in a 4'x8' Uhaul trailer and am willing to move anywhere to live at base.

I get it, random is technically the "fairest" way to do it, but I think it's just good practice to go by age.
I got hired almost a yr ago and all that was offered was the E175. I guess I gotz Lucky..
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:17 AM
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SJS? It's a difference between commuting to NY or driving to your hometown airport.
Oh I'm sorry we don't have 145s in DFW? Last I checked anyone awarded emj NY 145 was getting DFW by the time they finished ioe.
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