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06-03-2017 | 09:24 AM
#3081
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Beats me. I'm not an agent and I'm not a Mesa pilot. I've only witnessed the interaction between agents and Mesa pilots and supposedly there can be some confusion of some sort when listing as AAC. Perhaps when listing as an AAC there's no indication on the priority list that they're JS qualified so they'd rather have it be clear that they can ride the JS as a D6UJ? I'm not sure. Also, non-WO guys have to pay a yearly fee for travel benefits. So I'm sure there are some guys that don't pay for those benefits and just rely on JS'ing when they need to travel. In that case they wouldn't even have the option of listing as AAC. But the priority goes D2P, AAC, D3, D6UJ, D7UJ.
Ah okay, now that does make sense. Essentially they are paying to be ahead of D3s. Got it.
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06-03-2017 | 09:28 AM
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It might be. But I haven't seen any mention of selection in the contractual flow language. They could keep the pool at 5 pilots, or 300+, they could select with 2 weeks notice or 52 weeks, and not be in violation. If you want to more accurately estimate your flow date, just focus on who is actually in class at AA and ignore selection dates.
Understood. Is there a spreadsheet or informal posting of such information? Only source I know of is the selection page, but that only addresses half of the equation.
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06-03-2017 | 09:37 AM
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This has been a question bantered around in class.
How does a pilot for Envoy list for the jumpseat on AA and is there any reason or advantage for doing so? The consensus is you can't. The only way we have to list is through travel planner as a D2, which lists you for the back as jump seat eligible.
How does a pilot for Envoy list for the jumpseat on AA and is there any reason or advantage for doing so? The consensus is you can't. The only way we have to list is through travel planner as a D2, which lists you for the back as jump seat eligible.
06-03-2017 | 09:38 AM
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This has been a question bantered around in class.
How does a pilot for Envoy list for the jumpseat on AA and is there any reason or advantage for doing so? The consensus is you can't. The only way we have to list is through travel planner as a D2, which lists you for the back as jump seat eligible.
How does a pilot for Envoy list for the jumpseat on AA and is there any reason or advantage for doing so? The consensus is you can't. The only way we have to list is through travel planner as a D2, which lists you for the back as jump seat eligible.
The agents can see if you are FDJ authorized. They logically (in the normal sense) will issue the the 1W (or 2W) when necessary to get you onboard in priority order.
Word of caution, sometimes they do screw up and say that it is OUR duty to determine who gets the seat. This has happened to me multiple times in various airports. Most of the excuses from agents is, "Sorry I had to get the flight out ASAP." Even though I am staring at her during boarding watching their every move. So it does happen but rarely. When it does all you can do is file a complaint with the JS committee with the completed closed non-rev list that shows you and the person who took the JS.
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06-03-2017 | 09:43 AM
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On our MEC website there is the interactive seniority list. It isn't completely accurate but it is close.
06-03-2017 | 11:07 AM
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This has been a question bantered around in class.
How does a pilot for Envoy list for the jumpseat on AA and is there any reason or advantage for doing so? The consensus is you can't. The only way we have to list is through travel planner as a D2, which lists you for the back as jump seat eligible.
How does a pilot for Envoy list for the jumpseat on AA and is there any reason or advantage for doing so? The consensus is you can't. The only way we have to list is through travel planner as a D2, which lists you for the back as jump seat eligible.
I believe you answered your own question!
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06-03-2017 | 11:31 AM
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