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Old 06-28-2017 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 402FreightDog
Just curios what anyone knows about the Compass and Mesa contracts as far as how many aircraft and when they expire. I know the LAX Compass stuff has been brought up before. I've heard Mesa has poor performance but unlikely to go anywhere with Dougie being a PHX boy and drinking buddies with someone or other at Mesa.

Just trying to see what the potential for anything west of the Mississippi is with Envoy.
LAX within the next year or two on the 175 is unlikely. The only hints I've heard for a new 175 base is ORD. The return to service of the E140s currently sitting in SJT and the new Domicile LOA has led to a lot of speculation of new bases. I'd bet they end up out east before they send them west but that's just my guess.
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Old 06-29-2017 | 05:22 AM
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I've been hearing a lot about PHX and LAX. PHX due to AA wanting to move out the buses and bring more 737's in but there would be a gap that would need filled during the transition and LAX primarily due to the compass jets coming back in 2019.

Who can tell really. My guess is they go west before anymore on the east coast simply due to the completion out here and the fact that we already have two bases on the east coast.

Businesses want to pull business from their competitors and the area of the country that Envoy has zero market share right now is the western half of the country.

All speculation though and anyones guess is just as good as another.
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Old 06-29-2017 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
I've been hearing a lot about PHX and LAX. PHX due to AA wanting to move out the buses and bring more 737's in but there would be a gap that would need filled during the transition and LAX primarily due to the compass jets coming back in 2019.

Who can tell really. My guess is they go west before anymore on the east coast simply due to the completion out here and the fact that we already have two bases on the east coast.

Businesses want to pull business from their competitors and the area of the country that Envoy has zero market share right now is the western half of the country.

All speculation though and anyones guess is just as good as another.
For the record, this isn't a sure thing by any means. But yes, anything is possible. The rumors are more indicative of a northeast base as AAG scrambles to replace the AWAC flying. I'd put my money on PHL. But when it comes down to it, all we have are rumors and guesses. Only AAG knows the final plan, and even then, their plans are extremely dynamic and change frequently.
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Old 06-29-2017 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
For the record, this isn't a sure thing by any means. But yes, anything is possible. The rumors are more indicative of a northeast base as AAG scrambles to replace the AWAC flying. I'd put my money on PHL. But when it comes down to it, all we have are rumors and guesses. Only AAG knows the final plan, and even then, their plans are extremely dynamic and change frequently.
Why would Envoy open up a PHL base when Piedmont already has one?
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Old 06-29-2017 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by HeliHooker
Why would Envoy open up a PHL base when Piedmont already has one?
I think the question is how much staffing is needed to cover the AWAC flying.
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Old 06-29-2017 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HeliHooker
Why would Envoy open up a PHL base when Piedmont already has one?
Staffing issues at PDT possibly. I have a bro over there who was hired in December and just went to sims late last month on the 145.
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Old 06-29-2017 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
Staffing issues at PDT possibly. I have a bro over there who was hired in December and just went to sims late last month on the 145.
They're backed up in training over there and it's unlikely they can cover that lift by the time AWAC leaves the nest. It's logical that ENY pick up the slack. As PDT spools up, ENY will be moved back out - big reason for that LOA that was just ratified.

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Old 06-29-2017 | 07:22 AM
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What's the current upgrade time at the various bases?
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Old 06-29-2017 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 402FreightDog
Just curios what anyone knows about the Compass and Mesa contracts as far as how many aircraft and when they expire. I know the LAX Compass stuff has been brought up before. I've heard Mesa has poor performance but unlikely to go anywhere with Dougie being a PHX boy and drinking buddies with someone or other at Mesa.

Just trying to see what the potential for anything west of the Mississippi is with Envoy.
I seriously doubt they will renew the contract with Compass when it runs out in 2019 or 2020. Envoy is the only logical option to take over that 175 flying in LAX since it's a WO. Long ways away though. I'm sure a lot will happen by then.
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Old 06-29-2017 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron
What's the current upgrade time at the various bases?
Go to the Envoy profile page on APC. The breakdown is towards the bottom.
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