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07-18-2017, 04:27 PM
#3491
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Over on an AA thread, someone posted that the 7/25 class over there will have 42 new hires. If that's right it would bring the total in July to 83. 35% of 83 is 29.05, so it looks like they should be sending 30 flows total for July. That is pretty good news, hopefully they continue with large classes.
07-18-2017, 04:45 PM
#3492
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
Over on an AA thread, someone posted that the 7/25 class over there will have 42 new hires. If that's right it would bring the total in July to 83. 35% of 83 is 29.05, so it looks like they should be sending 30 flows total for July. That is pretty good news, hopefully they continue with large classes.
07-18-2017, 04:57 PM
#3493
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
I've heard that the 7/25 class will have 5 Eagle flows in it. Bringing the total for July to 25 on the nose. I've confirmed that while we thought there was no meter for July and that it would be a straight 35%, the 25 pilot meter does indeed apply. Unfortunately.
07-18-2017, 05:29 PM
#3494
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
I've heard that the 7/25 class will have 5 Eagle flows in it. Bringing the total for July to 25 on the nose. I've confirmed that while we thought there was no meter for July and that it would be a straight 35%, the 25 pilot meter does indeed apply. Unfortunately.
07-18-2017, 05:46 PM
#3495
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
Ugh, I reread it all and agree with you. Letter 12-03 says "AA agrees to offer a minimum of 35%" with zero mention of metering. But Letter 12-04 says "Eagle shall release a minimum of 25 per month." So basically AA offers 30 slots to our flows for July per 12-03, and envoy tells them they'll only send 25 pilots, per 12-04. Since at envoy, "minimum" and "maximum" mean the same thing. Annoying.
07-18-2017, 06:33 PM
#3496
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Originally Posted by Whiskey4
I've always wondered how "operational necessity" and "growth" mean the same thing. I believe the spirit of the agreement was to allow metering in case of an inability for the company to staff the operation. Sadly, since the language doesn't specify, the company can consider growth to be part of necessity.
07-18-2017, 07:45 PM
#3497
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
Yeah, "best efforts" and "operational necessity" are garbage phrases in a contract.
Are you telling me I need to relearn a new definition for the term we memorized verbatim from OpNav 3710?
"Operational Necessity: A mission associated with war or peacetime operations in which the consequences of an action justify accepting the risk of loss of aircraft and crew."
07-18-2017, 08:09 PM
#3499
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Originally Posted by Skid Mark
Shoot... I thought I was done with risking the loss of my aircraft and crew when I left the Navy...
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