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09-17-2017 | 10:33 AM

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DanRoman

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Thanks for all the responses, I'm mainly interested in the next installment of the interactive seniority list. I'll keep my eyes out.

09-17-2017 | 10:37 AM

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Purpleanga

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro4President

NH seniority LOA!!! WOW! I don't have a problem with the first tier of having the pipeline guys get seniority in the NH class. I get it and actually like that they get a bit more for making the commitment early on.

The second tier is where I have the issue. The prior 121 guys based on hours flown is where I have issue. They have no prior history with the company so they should be treated exactly the same as a NH. Make no mistake I get why the company wants it this way I just don't think we should of allowed them to address this issue of needing CAs outside of increasing QOL and PAY.

Now onto the question everyone wants to know. How many Pipeline guys make up each class?

Why would some guy with valuable experience be treated same as someone with no experience? I always said the way Envoy does the new hire seniority wasn't fair but this is a step in the right direction. The old method was a complete lottery unless you were old, most other airlines allow you to pick base and equipment.

09-17-2017 | 10:39 AM

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ChicagoJohn08

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Originally Posted by Purpleanga

Why would some guy with valuable exoerience be treated same as someone with no experience?

Because that's how seniority works. You start the same day as everyone else, so there has to be an unbiased way to assigning seniority in a class. Welcome to a union job.

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09-17-2017 | 10:44 AM

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Purpleanga

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Yea... age was totally an unbiased way!

09-17-2017 | 11:09 AM

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Ijustlikeflying

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MiA line counts way down

Lines in Mia went down from 36 or so to 25 this month, does anyone know if these will go back up in November? What happened?

09-17-2017 | 11:29 AM

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HardLemonade

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Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying

Lines in Mia went down from 36 or so to 25 this month, does anyone know if these will go back up in November? What happened?

Much like your girlfriend's sex drive, lines dip and spike month to month. Summer is over, so schedules get pulled back all across the system. This happens every year.

Winter is when lines shrink faster than a penis in ice cold water.

09-17-2017 | 12:31 PM

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Dmaxvelo18

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If I had just waited two more classes I could have gotten first pick under the new LOA... my class had about 4 or so pipeline guys, including myself. Oh well, Canadian reject jet it is!

09-17-2017 | 12:42 PM

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Ag89

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DFW

How long would it take (approx) a new hire FO to be awarded DFW as a base?
Or where can I find that info?

Thanks

09-17-2017 | 12:55 PM

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Big Perm

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I'm not digging this new LOA seniority deal. Pipeline guys may deserve it.
Placing anyone who has prior 121 time over all other new hires is ridiculous. What about military fw new hires with thousands of hours etc? There will be several unfair comparisons.

Short sited policy. Not sure why the union agreed to it. What did they get from the company for agreeing?

09-17-2017 | 01:07 PM

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Flight history from SABRE

I have heard there is a program or app that can log into SABRE and pull out all your flight history. Anyone know anything about it? The individual said it has been several years since they did it.