i am a june 2017 hire, coming close to a year at MQ.
Does MQ throw money at you as a retention bonus after 12mo
in property? or is it after 24mo?

 

It's supposed to be 1 year but due to the wording of the contract it doesn't always mean you get it exactly 12 months out. They have 4 "windows" where you qualify for a bonus in, 2500 each (10k total per year). The catch is that you have to be out of probation for the entirety of that window. So seeing as the next window starts on June 1st, assuming your class was any time after that you won't qualify since you were on probation during the period.

Not to worry though, you will receive all 8 payments (2 years' worth) regardless of when you start receiving payments. The last "window" that you qualify for will be after the end of your 3rd year (assuming you haven't upgraded by then.)

If I'm wrong someone please correct me on this, it took like 6 NewsBlasts before I actually sat down and tried to reason it out.

 

Thanks for the response ; had my proby ride back in the beginning of may so maybe i might qualify for it, who knows... Thanks for the info!

 

The bolded part is the biggest issue I have with the forced upgrades. Hired under the pretense of $20K in retention bonuses over two years but no way in hell of actually collecting that. :-\

BTW, I never came here with the intent of staying an FO long enough to get all that so I don't see this issue as pertaining to me but damn, I do see it as a one hell of a bait and switch. The fact the wording makes it such that you don't even start receiving it until months after your first year, making you have even less of an opportunity to collect on the payments, just makes it worse (and that part does affect me).

Nope. You are still on probation for the full year. Even if you had your proby ride. Even if you had that interview at the CPO that got the proby reports taken off of the dispatch releases. You are still on probation for a full year from DOH.

 

The bonus was added back when upgrades were still multiple years, but I'm glad they're still around regardless of upgrade time (higher pay rates would be favored, of course..).

I had similar gripes about the forced upgrade in regard to the bonuses but the latest change to start captain pay once you're awarded the seat does a pretty good job of relieving that. Still sh*tty for the 800+ guys who don't get to control their upgrade but the pill's easier to swallow now.

 

"according to a friend" = 99% made up.

Most 'captain qualified' corporate jet pilots are better stick's than the RJ drivers. They have flown higher performance jet aircraft with substantially less help from the right seat and the company.

might not hold true with the turboprop cowboys.

 

He’s probably more referring to the corporate jet guys that only ever flew left seat but logged PIC time under part 91 and never flew left seat.

The ex gama jet, wheels up type ca’s have been surprisingly good along with majority of ex expressjet ca’s

 

I know this guy from years, no the type of dude to make up stories, specially at this level.

 

Part 91, unless 91K, which is basically 135, time doesn’t count towards the 1000 so this argument doesn’t hold up.

 

Well if I were the company I would be re-auditing some of the logbooks.