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Pedro4President 05-08-2017 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by V1 ROT8 (Post 2359432)
Have you ever been at the bottom of the list on a fleet that is scheduled to shrink and eventually disappear? It's not a particularly enjoyable experience.

I fully understand what you are saying but it might just be a back door way into getting the 175. Suffer on the CRJ then bam over to the 175 after you get displaced. Sure it might not work and it might be a dumb choice for most people but if you really wanted the 175 and you are young then that's the best way.

AZPilotMike 05-08-2017 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2359422)
If it's all about ORD.... why would someone not pick CRJ which is only in ORD. When they go away they can displace wherever like say ORD.

Because the aircraft is going away and will have zero movement. Why waste time getting that type when you can just get the 145 and start working on your seniority.

use2fly 05-08-2017 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by AZPilotMike (Post 2359656)
Because the aircraft is going away and will have zero movement. Why waste time getting that type when you can just get the 145 and start working on your seniority.

10 CRJ in todays class, 40 plus CRJ FOs have been awarded upgrades in the last two vacancies. They will still have to have new hires unless they accelerate the transfers.

SilentLurker 05-08-2017 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2359437)
I fully understand what you are saying but it might just be a back door way into getting the 175. Suffer on the CRJ then bam over to the 175 after you get displaced. Sure it might not work and it might be a dumb choice for most people but if you really wanted the 175 and you are young then that's the best way.



This! +1 ....

If you live in ORD Rsv is not all that bad. Commuting to Rsv like many are doing sucks. The local senior FO's & CA's, and even junior FO's have been bidding rsv although they can hold a line. They get plenty of time at home vs those holding a line. Plenty of OT to be had for more $$$$ and flying if so desired. Thus why I say CRJ ORD is seriously something to consider if your a young or middle aged fox who lives in ORD. CRJ ORD has more line flying than E145 ORD lines. Also if you would like multiple type ratings on your cert to stand out, does not hurt having multiple type ratings if applying to DA, UA, SW, Alaska, Hawaiian, while also awaiting for the flow, its a pretty good position to be in.

As stated above, if u get displaced 12, 18, or 24 months later you'll have a more favorable seniority depending on your displacement base/aircraft bid preference.

Purpleanga 05-08-2017 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2359697)
This! +1 ....

If you live in ORD Rsv is not all that bad. Commuting to Rsv like many are doing sucks. The local senior FO's & CA's, and even junior FO's have been bidding rsv although they can hold a line. They get plenty of time at home vs those holding a line. Plenty of OT to be had for more $$$$ and flying if so desired. Thus why I say CRJ ORD is seriously something to consider if your a young or middle aged fox who lives in ORD. CRJ ORD has more line flying than E145 ORD lines. Also if you would like multiple type ratings on your cert to stand out, does not hurt having multiple type ratings if applying to DA, UA, SW, Alaska, Hawaiian, while also awaiting for the flow, its a pretty good position to be in.

As stated above, if u get displaced 12, 18, or 24 months later you'll have a more favorable seniority depending on your displacement base/aircraft bid preference.

Still not worth it, you'll be on reserve indefinitely. It sucks to go through multiple training events anyways. Just get on the 145. If you have SJS, there's no difference between the CRJ7 and 145, just a bit longer.

E175 Driver 05-08-2017 11:51 AM

Go to the E175 if you can folks.

satpak77 05-08-2017 01:05 PM

Silly question: Are the E145's ever going away completely ? Aka all 175 or greater fleet ?

bigtime209 05-08-2017 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 2359792)
Silly question: Are the E145's ever going away completely ? Aka all 175 or greater fleet ?

Not for many, many years. If ever.

TheRaven 05-09-2017 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2359736)
Go to the E175 if you can folks.

Is that the best option in your extensive airline experience?

1Taco 05-09-2017 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 2359792)
Silly question: Are the E145's ever going away completely ? Aka all 175 or greater fleet ?

Good question. I don't think ENY management even truly knows. We're still sending 145s to PDT all while pulling 140s out of SJT. I think it's safe to say that we'll have EMJs for many years.


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