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Old 01-07-2018, 06:06 AM
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Really? AA is APA? Thanks......
Sarcasm not required, just admit you were wrong and move on.

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Old 01-07-2018, 06:08 AM
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Envoy and PSA are hiring like crazy right now. PSA has a hard cap on classes at 35 per class, and has been filling them for months. Envoy has had classes of well more than 50 per class for months now, with some over 70. PDT...well...PDT is struggling with growth right now and I am pretty sure that they are shrinking even though they could hire hundreds if they were able to get everything in order.

The AA WO are filling classes because they are stable and predictable. Endeavor raised pay, and the AA WO will follow suit and exceed that pay. Someone else will jump up with a big benefit, and the AA WO will again do the same.

The flow helps, but the AA WO also get most of the same benefits as the mainline AA. AA is starting to create a culture of "one" family between regionals and mainline. They have been talking about this for several years, and it is starting to show. Examples:

- Every mainline AA employee gets 2 free positive space tickets anywhere in the world...all WO regional employees are included.

- Every mainline AA employee gets profit sharing...all WO regional employees are included.

- Every mainline AA employee gets $1000 tax check...all WO regional employees are included.

- All AA WO regional employees get the exact same travel benefits as mainline AA employees.

I am very happy that Endeavor raised the bar, and Republic may be following suit. It just means even higher pay at the AA WO in a few months.
Brand scope! What a concept! THIS is what we were fighting for at DAL in the early 2000s.
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond View Post
Envoy and PSA are hiring like crazy right now. PSA has a hard cap on classes at 35 per class, and has been filling them for months. Envoy has had classes of well more than 50 per class for months now, with some over 70. PDT...well...PDT is struggling with growth right now and I am pretty sure that they are shrinking even though they could hire hundreds if they were able to get everything in order.

The AA WO are filling classes because they are stable and predictable. Endeavor raised pay, and the AA WO will follow suit and exceed that pay. Someone else will jump up with a big benefit, and the AA WO will again do the same.

The flow helps, but the AA WO also get most of the same benefits as the mainline AA. AA is starting to create a culture of "one" family between regionals and mainline. They have been talking about this for several years, and it is starting to show. Examples:

- Every mainline AA employee gets 2 free positive space tickets anywhere in the world...all WO regional employees are included.

- Every mainline AA employee gets profit sharing...all WO regional employees are included.

- Every mainline AA employee gets $1000 tax check...all WO regional employees are included.

- All AA WO regional employees get the exact same travel benefits as mainline AA employees.

I am very happy that Endeavor raised the bar, and Republic may be following suit. It just means even higher pay at the AA WO in a few months.

Funny. Thought there was a pilot shortage. Especially at the regionals. Pay them accordingly and treat them without despair and suddenly they have to "cap" classes. Interesting concept.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ecam View Post
Sarcasm not required, just admit you were wrong and move on.

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Don’t get upset because you couldn’t read.

But NOT having a flow at UAL ISNT the fault of UALALPA, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr View Post
Don’t get upset because you couldn’t read.

But NOT having a flow at UAL ISNT the fault of UALALPA, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I tend to believe that -as with most things at the airlines- if management wanted it they could make it happen.

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Old 01-12-2018, 09:51 PM
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I tend to believe that -as with most things at the airlines- if management wanted it they could make it happen.
Which pretty much sums it up for UAL.

Doesn’t matter if it’s an L-CAL or L-UAL or the UALALPA higher ups, they’re all surprised at what a cluster the CPP is and how poorly executed it’s been.
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Old 01-15-2018, 05:43 AM
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WOW, this rumor really died!! hahaha not much talking anymore... I guess we realized it aint gonna happen! Hopefully those interviews, class dates elsewhere are coming up soon because Xjt wont last that much longer!
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:12 AM
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WOW, this rumor really died!! hahaha not much talking anymore... I guess we realized it aint gonna happen! Hopefully those interviews, class dates elsewhere are coming up soon because Xjt wont last that much longer!
If we actually get this RFP then something is afoot because St. George would never allow us to retain flying or airplanes. If the 22 700s go to skywest, then we're done
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingMaryJane View Post
WOW, this rumor really died!! hahaha not much talking anymore... I guess we realized it aint gonna happen! Hopefully those interviews, class dates elsewhere are coming up soon because Xjt wont last that much longer!
No reason to think the rumor ever had merit, but there’s also no reason to think anything changed. Everybody decided that if it didn’t happen by January 1st that it wasn’t true......which makes no real sense. The rumor of the 5-year extension was the same way......it was talked about, and then fizzled out....and then a few weeks later it was announced. I think we will all be surprised how long XJT will last despite the issues it faces.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:56 AM
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From what we are hearing at Trans States, it sounds like something will be announced sometime next month.
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