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Old 02-07-2018 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
Actually, the pool is tiny because we'd rather take ourselves somewhere other than United.
That's fine. I hope people find happiness wherever they end up.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 07:07 PM
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Where are you getting this from? The sim didn't go to CommutAir.
I don't know who it belongs to, but a 145 sim is being installed in ATL. Not a rumor. I saw it.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 07:32 PM
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Yep... possibly getting a new simulator, I keep hearing about wifi to be installed in all aircraft, and half the fleet confirmed to be repainted this year.

Yet XJT is toast? I think not.
XJT is toast because management is standing around in a circle jerking their dongs. Not because UA doesn't need the lift. Right now a 10 year FO can go to another regional and make more at first year pay with a quick upgrade. The fact that we even have 10 year FO's is RIDICULOUS. (just spoke with one today) Status quo ain't going to cut it. XJT is toast if they don't change the trajectory, and fast.

But it's nice to see such unrealistic positivity. Keep up the good work. Maybe you should ask for an extra turkey coupon or try for a management position. They too are good at pointing out the nonexistent positives.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 07:40 PM
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XJT is toast because management is standing around in a circle jerking their dongs. Not because UA doesn't need the lift. Right now a 10 year FO can go to another regional and make more at first year pay with a quick upgrade. The fact that we even have 10 year FO's is RIDICULOUS. (just spoke with one today) Status quo ain't going to cut it. XJT is toast if they don't change the trajectory, and fast.

But it's nice to see such unrealistic positivity. Keep up the good work. Maybe you should ask for an extra turkey coupon or try for a management position. They too are good at pointing out the nonexistent positives.
Captain is down to 6 years and change I believe. It is coming down.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 07:49 PM
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Captain is down to 6 years and change I believe. It is coming down.
The most junior pilot awarded CA on the CRJ side is a 12/2007 hire. And a nice chunk of people on that side from 2007 to 2011 where ERJ has the most junior CA. This integration is going to create an indefinite upgrade situation. So, coming down...no. On paper they can still say 3/2011 is the most junior CA, but in fact the position will now fill in reverse from that date.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
The most junior pilot awarded CA on the CRJ side is a 12/2007 hire. And a nice chunk of people on that side from 2007 to 2011 where ERJ has the most junior CA. This integration is going to create an indefinite upgrade situation. So, coming down...no. On paper they can still say 3/2011 is the most junior CA, but in fact the position will now fill in reverse from that date.
Everyone senior to the most junior captain on ERJ side is now getting captain pay. As people transition, they will hold captain soon. It is moving in the right direction.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 08:09 PM
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Everyone senior to the most junior captain on ERJ side is now getting captain pay. As people transition, they will hold captain soon. It is moving in the right direction.
I think you have to check your compass calibration. The only direction it's moving is straight into the ground. Until they do something to attract new hires and actually compete in terms of compensation, the current trajectory is not sustainable. Losing 50+ a month and hiring zero is not the right direction. They already turned away block hours for next month on the ERJ side. It will move in the right direction once this place starts ponying up the dough.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 08:12 PM
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There’s a new hire class of 17 being conducted right now. The room is completely full. I’m not saying it’s a regular thing, but we aren’t hiring zero.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 08:19 PM
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There’s a new hire class of 17 being conducted right now. The room is completely full. I’m not saying it’s a regular thing, but we aren’t hiring zero.
I wonder how many of those 17 will still be around in 6 months.
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Old 02-07-2018 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PontiusPilot
If the pool is tiny because people don't want to improve their situation badly enough, then so be it. It'll be a shorter wait for those who actually do.
The pool is tiny because UAL goat fornicated the program in the beginning. They goat fornicate just to a lesser extent now. Too many good guys shot down, guys that interviewed 18 months and STILL wouldn’t go till 2019 leaving for elsewhere, etc.

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No desire to try again? Am I supposed to feel sorry for someone else's lack of persistence after coming up short the first time? I don't.
Sure, there’s guys (and girls) that “came up short”. But see above, there’s also a lot that were denied because of HR’s screwed up way of running the program.
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