Will ExpressJet survive this?
#1371
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C5 lost flying in IAD due to the fact they were supposed to pick up 3,000 block hours in EWR before the NY/NJ goverment created mass travel bans. Which would of been enough to keep everyone in jobs come October 1st. When the EWR flying went away we didn't get our 500ish hours back from ZW. I wouldn't be so quick to speak of what you don't know.
#1372
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C5 lost flying in IAD due to the fact they were supposed to pick up 3,000 block hours in EWR before the NY/NJ goverment created mass travel bans. Which would of been enough to keep everyone in jobs come October 1st. When the EWR flying went away we didn't get our 500ish hours back from ZW. I wouldn't be so quick to speak of what you don't know.
#1373
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They originally gave C5 8000 block in EWR for August and gave a couple hundred hours of our flying in IAD to AW that made sense given their typical route structure. Then at the last minute Cuomo and Murphy got together and over-reacted to the recent spike in cases in the south and declared "no turn up in EWR". The port authority of NY and NJ (note those states are in the name of the organization) pulled the plug and UAL was forced to delay reopening of EWR. At this point it was too late to change what they gave AW so C5 got what it had in July minus about 200 hours, so we now sit at 2500 hrs for August. This is consistent with a couple captains I know who barely had a line in July losing their lines for August.
Care to make any more uninformed statements?
#1374
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I'm the guy who said that and that statement came directly from a union official (though I won't say who since I don't want to get him in any trouble). It is no conspiracy theory. This guy sees the data file UAL gives our company and works with other union members to build our schedules every month so he would know the truth. I've also flown with the guy and, like me, he is not someone who gets his jollies running around telling lies.
They originally gave C5 8000 block in EWR for August, gave AW some additional flying in IAD to pick up what made sense given their typical route structure. Then at the last minute Cuomo and Murphy got together and over-reacted to the recent spike in cases in the south and said "no turn up in EWR". The port authority of NY and NJ (note those states are in the name of the organization) pulled the plug and UAL was forced to delay reopening of EWR. At this point it was too late to change what they gave AW so C5 got what it had in July minus about 200 hours, so we now sit at 2500 hrs for August. This consistent with a couple captains I know who barely had a line in July losing their lines for August.
Care to make any more uninformed statements?
They originally gave C5 8000 block in EWR for August, gave AW some additional flying in IAD to pick up what made sense given their typical route structure. Then at the last minute Cuomo and Murphy got together and over-reacted to the recent spike in cases in the south and said "no turn up in EWR". The port authority of NY and NJ (note those states are in the name of the organization) pulled the plug and UAL was forced to delay reopening of EWR. At this point it was too late to change what they gave AW so C5 got what it had in July minus about 200 hours, so we now sit at 2500 hrs for August. This consistent with a couple captains I know who barely had a line in July losing their lines for August.
Care to make any more uninformed statements?
I get it. Everyone is hurting and it’s a lot more palatable to blame Cuomo than a force of nature or big picture economics.
#1375
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I'm the guy who said that and that statement came directly from a union official (though I won't say who since I don't want to get him in any trouble). It is no conspiracy theory. This guy sees the data file UAL gives our company and works with other union members to build our schedules every month so he would know the truth. I've also flown with the guy and, like me, he is not someone who gets his jollies running around telling lies.
They originally gave C5 8000 block in EWR for August and gave a couple hundred hours of our flying in IAD to AW that made sense given their typical route structure. Then at the last minute Cuomo and Murphy got together and over-reacted to the recent spike in cases in the south and declared "no turn up in EWR". The port authority of NY and NJ (note those states are in the name of the organization) pulled the plug and UAL was forced to delay reopening of EWR. At this point it was too late to change what they gave AW so C5 got what it had in July minus about 200 hours, so we now sit at 2500 hrs for August. This is consistent with a couple captains I know who barely had a line in July losing their lines for August.
Care to make any more uninformed statements?
They originally gave C5 8000 block in EWR for August and gave a couple hundred hours of our flying in IAD to AW that made sense given their typical route structure. Then at the last minute Cuomo and Murphy got together and over-reacted to the recent spike in cases in the south and declared "no turn up in EWR". The port authority of NY and NJ (note those states are in the name of the organization) pulled the plug and UAL was forced to delay reopening of EWR. At this point it was too late to change what they gave AW so C5 got what it had in July minus about 200 hours, so we now sit at 2500 hrs for August. This is consistent with a couple captains I know who barely had a line in July losing their lines for August.
Care to make any more uninformed statements?
#1376
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Why do you guys care anyway? It's not exactly news that pre-covid C5 was taking over flying in EWR from you guys while you were moving out to ORD. It makes perfect sense to me that UAL was expecting C5 to do a bulk of the E145 lift out of EWR during the recovery. And for the record, 8000 block is less than 70% of the flying we were doing this time last year so it's not exactly a gift. Even with that many hours we'd have to furlough some people come October 1.
#1377
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I know because a guy I trust said he saw that in the original (now pulled) data file straight from UAL. Is it really that hard to believe?
Why do you guys care anyway? It's not exactly news that pre-covid C5 was taking over flying in EWR from you guys while you were moving out to ORD. It makes perfect sense to me that UAL was expecting C5 to do a bulk of the E145 lift out of EWR during the recovery. And for the record, 8000 block is less than 70% of the flying we were doing this time last year so it's not exactly a gift. Even with that many hours we'd have to furlough some people come October 1.
Why do you guys care anyway? It's not exactly news that pre-covid C5 was taking over flying in EWR from you guys while you were moving out to ORD. It makes perfect sense to me that UAL was expecting C5 to do a bulk of the E145 lift out of EWR during the recovery. And for the record, 8000 block is less than 70% of the flying we were doing this time last year so it's not exactly a gift. Even with that many hours we'd have to furlough some people come October 1.
#1378
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I know because a guy I trust said he saw that in the original (now pulled) data file straight from UAL. Is it really that hard to believe?
Why do you guys care anyway? It's not exactly news that pre-covid C5 was taking over flying in EWR from you guys while you were moving out to ORD. It makes perfect sense to me that UAL was expecting C5 to do a bulk of the E145 lift out of EWR during the recovery. And for the record, 8000 block is less than 70% of the flying we were doing this time last year so it's not exactly a gift. Even with that many hours we'd have to furlough some people come October 1.
Why do you guys care anyway? It's not exactly news that pre-covid C5 was taking over flying in EWR from you guys while you were moving out to ORD. It makes perfect sense to me that UAL was expecting C5 to do a bulk of the E145 lift out of EWR during the recovery. And for the record, 8000 block is less than 70% of the flying we were doing this time last year so it's not exactly a gift. Even with that many hours we'd have to furlough some people come October 1.
#1379
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It's official. ExpressJet is done
"ExpressJetters,
As you may be aware, United made a strategic decision to retain only one ERJ145 United Express operator for 2021 and beyond. Unfortunately, we have just been told that United intends to go forward with CommutAir as its sole operator of the ERJ145 in 2021.
SK
"
"ExpressJetters,
As you may be aware, United made a strategic decision to retain only one ERJ145 United Express operator for 2021 and beyond. Unfortunately, we have just been told that United intends to go forward with CommutAir as its sole operator of the ERJ145 in 2021.
SK
"
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