Will ExpressJet survive this?
07-30-2020 | 06:34 AM
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XJT has already been chosen as the survivor.
United wouldn't have asked for concessions from XJT to match C5 if they didn't want XJT. Think about it. If it TRULY was all based on costs, United would just shut down XJT and grow C5 when needed.
This is what is happening - United is using C5 as a pawn to get XJT to take concessions. Once this occurs, C5 will shut down (as already planned).
United wouldn't have asked for concessions from XJT to match C5 if they didn't want XJT. Think about it. If it TRULY was all based on costs, United would just shut down XJT and grow C5 when needed.
This is what is happening - United is using C5 as a pawn to get XJT to take concessions. Once this occurs, C5 will shut down (as already planned).
Also, if it was a real competition, why not bend c5 over further, and ask for concessions there as well? Who wants to go back to $19 an hour? First one to raise their hand jeeps their job! The fact that C5 hasn’t been asked for concessions tells you all you need to know.
07-30-2020 | 07:14 AM
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United asked Expressjet to cut costs as it would be a pain to transfer aircraft and cancel contracts. If expressjet could cut costs then this wouldn't happen. C5 was already moving into ORD this year to cover expressjet flying. From what I can see expressjet was going to be shrunk to a one base airline (IAH) before covid. If expressjet did disappear Skywest could easily cover IAH with CRJ 200s they have spare from Delta.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
07-30-2020 | 07:25 AM
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United asked Expressjet to cut costs as it would be a pain to transfer aircraft and cancel contracts. If expressjet could cut costs then this wouldn't happen. C5 was already moving into ORD this year to cover expressjet flying. From what I can see expressjet was going to be shrunk to a one base airline (IAH) before covid. If expressjet did disappear Skywest could easily cover IAH with CRJ 200s they have spare from Delta.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
Flying 3or 4000 block hours a month won’t cut it for no body .
07-30-2020 | 07:42 AM
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United asked Expressjet to cut costs as it would be a pain to transfer aircraft and cancel contracts. If expressjet could cut costs then this wouldn't happen. C5 was already moving into ORD this year to cover expressjet flying. From what I can see expressjet was going to be shrunk to a one base airline (IAH) before covid. If expressjet did disappear Skywest could easily cover IAH with CRJ 200s they have spare from Delta.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
07-30-2020 | 07:54 AM
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United asked Expressjet to cut costs as it would be a pain to transfer aircraft and cancel contracts. If expressjet could cut costs then this wouldn't happen. C5 was already moving into ORD this year to cover expressjet flying. From what I can see expressjet was going to be shrunk to a one base airline (IAH) before covid. If expressjet did disappear Skywest could easily cover IAH with CRJ 200s they have spare from Delta.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
Expressjet was dying before covid came along.
Pretty sure this was while the 175 was ramping up so they were focused on staffing majority of that flying allowing C5 to come help cover. Should have no problems with ORD now that those 175’s are gone.
07-30-2020 | 08:30 AM
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United had to dump them somewhere and you were it.
Also, the start of the end was losing your 175s to MESA.
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07-30-2020 | 09:18 AM
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And why didn't C5 get both? Because C5 can't grow fast enough. UAL has been trying to grow C5 for how long... a few years now? C5 has grown slowly, but there's only so quickly that an airline run on a whiteboard can grow. That's Champlain's fault, not the pilots' fault.
This is why EV is probably going to win this one if UAL is serious about chopping an airline.
This is why EV is probably going to win this one if UAL is serious about chopping an airline.
07-30-2020 | 09:24 AM
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XJT has already been chosen as the survivor.
United wouldn't have asked for concessions from XJT to match C5 if they didn't want XJT. Think about it. If it TRULY was all based on costs, United would just shut down XJT and grow C5 when needed.
This is what is happening - United is using C5 as a pawn to get XJT to take concessions. Once this occurs, C5 will shut down (as already planned).
United wouldn't have asked for concessions from XJT to match C5 if they didn't want XJT. Think about it. If it TRULY was all based on costs, United would just shut down XJT and grow C5 when needed.
This is what is happening - United is using C5 as a pawn to get XJT to take concessions. Once this occurs, C5 will shut down (as already planned).
Regardless crappy position for both airlines.
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