ExpressJet UAL Contract Extended?
08-18-2009 | 07:03 AM
#62
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I agree with the whole idea that working at a regional, but to say our QOL sucks, um sure. I know my contract is better then airways and Cal mainline. Yes my pay sucks, but as a 2nd year fo I'll break 45k this year. Not that is enough for what I do, but it's better then most. Also payrates are not what make it at an airline.
08-18-2009 | 07:48 AM
#63
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From: A220 CA
i get what you're saying, but that's the danger with anything. pan am anyone? they ran the world for years. then they were gone just like that. i jumpseated on a united flight the other day, where the captain was ex-pan am. he said his career path was created by satan. he worked his way up in pan am, then he had to start over at 42 years old. got on at united, at the bottom, and worked his way up again, and of course we know what's happened over there, and they've been barely hanging on too. it's realistic it could happen to him again. and of course mainline airlines close domiciles too. so it's not all just regionals.
08-18-2009 | 08:46 AM
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That's exactly right. In perspective, not only to other regular jobs but even by major, corp, fractional standards, they are horrible. Someone I know at a fractional laughs when I tell him I flew 85+ hours because he gets paid about 6 times what I make and flys less than half of what I fly. In the grand scheme of things they are very very crap.
08-18-2009 | 09:22 AM
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That's exactly right. In perspective, not only to other regular jobs but even by major, corp, fractional standards, they are horrible. Someone I know at a fractional laughs when I tell him I flew 85+ hours because he gets paid about 6 times what I make and flys less than half of what I fly. In the grand scheme of things they are very very crap.
I thought I hit the jackpot getting a part 135 job after my furlough at XJT but now I can't wait to get back.
08-18-2009 | 10:37 AM
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That's exactly right. In perspective, not only to other regular jobs but even by major, corp, fractional standards, they are horrible. Someone I know at a fractional laughs when I tell him I flew 85+ hours because he gets paid about 6 times what I make and flys less than half of what I fly. In the grand scheme of things they are very very crap.
08-18-2009 | 10:46 AM
#67
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The only way somebody at a fractional is making 6x more than a regional airline pilot is if the regional guy is an FO and the frax guy is a 5+ year captain at Flex, NJA or CShares.
I enjoyed working at AWAC, and I enjoy my 91 gig even better...but not everybody would feel the same way.
A job is a job is a job - a means to a paycheck. As long as you enjoy what you're doing, to hell with everybody else...and if you don't, then maybe its time to pursue a different path.
I enjoyed working at AWAC, and I enjoy my 91 gig even better...but not everybody would feel the same way.
A job is a job is a job - a means to a paycheck. As long as you enjoy what you're doing, to hell with everybody else...and if you don't, then maybe its time to pursue a different path.
08-18-2009 | 11:22 AM
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From: MD80
Yeah, those really sweet fractional/corporate are extremely difficult to come by....if someone told me I could choose between XJT, Flight Options, or Avantair, it wouldn't be a tough choice. No offense to those guys at all, I'm just not a 7 on 7 off kind of person. I like having union protection and a good contract. I know a couple guys flying charter at different places. They may fly less, get paid more, but they have like 2 hard days off a month, the rest of the time they're attached to their cell phone.....waiting.
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