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Old 07-30-2015 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
We have had dozens of ExpressJet guys/gals in our classes.
Dozens, huh? Just checked our attrition data, looks like only 10 left for PSA this year.
Old 07-30-2015 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bozobigtop
Volunteering at the homeless shelter will get you more attention.
And if there isn't one nearby, you can volunteer at your nearest regional crew lounge between midnight and 6am.
Old 07-30-2015 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SilentB25
All great advice!

Hoping I have a successful interview: I am hoping for an ATL base because I have family there. What are the chances and which CRJ would that include? Can I choose CRJ over ERJ? If i can choose CRJ, can I choose which CRJ? I could not find any benefits online, what might these include? These are the question I have and would ask during the interview. So far....

Thanks for all the recommendations!
Don't listen to the negative guys here. I'm new at XJT(Legacy ASA side). My whole class and the classes before us and after us got ATL right out of class.
Ask for the CRJ if you want Atlanta, because ERJ will be the legacy XJT operations.

Its not all rainbows and unicorns at XJT, or any regional. If you know what to expect going in, you wont be mislead or disappointed.
If you want the job, just go in and do your best. All the airlines need pilots right now. Be open and honest about your history.

I came from flight instructing and had next to zero turbine experience. Training was harder for me that the military guys flying KC-135's and C-17's, but they gave me extra sims when I needed it, and I passed the check ride without issues. The training team is awesome!! They want you to pass and succeed.


Yes, I still have stars in my eyes and have that "New FO smell", but I have always believed a job is what you make it. Will you be on reserve? Yes. Will you upgrade? Eventually (8 Years?). But, the major airlines are hiring FOs, so you may not have to.

I think now is a great time to be in the airlines. You are going to see rumors that say "we will be bought next week", to "we will be closing the doors next week".
Just go do your job, and be happy your flying a jet.

The pay sucks, so be prepared. It sucks everywhere to start.
I love it right now!!!

If you have questions please PM me, and I will answer you honestly.
Old 07-30-2015 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CL65driver
Dozens, huh? Just checked our attrition data, looks like only 10 left for PSA this year.
That's 10 more than we had going to ExpressJet. Look, I'm not trying to get in a ****ing contest over stuff that honestly doesn't pertain to your airline's thread. I just get sick of seeing all of the unfounded low blows directed at us. You want to be mad? Don't be mad at PSA for trying to secure our own futures (and honestly, the contract that was ratified was hardly concessionary. It was give and take, like most contracts are. Some things improved, some didn't). Regionals were not meant to be made a place to call home. And we didn't ask for Envoy's 700s. That was DP's game plan. At least they are staying under the AAG umbrella and not being farmed out to a lower cost regional.
Old 07-30-2015 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
and honestly, the contract that was ratified was hardly concessionary. It was give and take, like most contracts are.
Are you saying you "secured" a cost neutral contract while your parent company made half a billion in net profits?

All you did is create a downward pressure on Envoy and Piedmont. When we had to vote on our concessionary contract, we were threatened that we will shut down if we vote no, same with RAH pilots. Yet, here we are still in business. But keep believing in what makes you feel good about yourself! You got bullied by your own managment and that's a fact!
Old 07-30-2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
That's 10 more than we had going to ExpressJet. Look, I'm not trying to get in a ****ing contest over stuff that honestly doesn't pertain to your airline's thread. I just get sick of seeing all of the unfounded low blows directed at us. You want to be mad? Don't be mad at PSA for trying to secure our own futures (and honestly, the contract that was ratified was hardly concessionary. It was give and take, like most contracts are. Some things improved, some didn't). Regionals were not meant to be made a place to call home. And we didn't ask for Envoy's 700s. That was DP's game plan. At least they are staying under the AAG umbrella and not being farmed out to a lower cost regional.
Correct, didn't ask for envoy's planes but voted yes knowing they would be coming your way. Yes you did secure your own futures..... at the expense of a much more professional pilot group.
Didn't you just hit the line? I don't understand why you try to make it a point to justify the garbage that you didn't even vote on.
Old 07-30-2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Squawk87
Are you saying you "secured" a cost neutral contract while your parent company made half a billion in net profits?

All you did is create a downward pressure on Envoy and Piedmont. When we had to vote on our concessionary contract, we were threatened that we will shut down if we vote no, same with RAH pilots. Yet, here we are still in business. But keep believing in what makes you feel good about yourself! You got bullied by your own managment and that's a fact!
Management came to the pilot group 3 seperate times. The first two times, when our pilot group voted no, the proposed flying went elsewhere. The third time, the pilot group was threatened with further reduced flying and possible shutdown. Or, ratify an agreement that in all honesty was hardly concessionary and offered growth to a small airline that could of been easily and quickly put out of business. Look at Envoy. Huge pilot group, lots of airplanes. Not so easy to just shut down. But you can bet Doug called their bluff. So what makes you so sure that PSA wouldn't have been sent the way of the buffalo by Doug Parker and AAG? And further more, why should our pilot group have been sacrificed in the interests of "the better good for the industry"? And why did ALPA, the union that represents both of our pilot groups stand by and allow AAG to essentially take advantage of two ALPA regional air carriers? Answer: because this sector of the industry is broken. No one is looking out for anyone else and ALPA doesn't represent our best interests. I had disdain for PSA before I chose to come here. Then I talked to friends flying for several different regionals (to include yours). They all told me the same thing. Go somewhere that is an easy commute and offers a reasonable upgrade time. Don't spend the next 5 years of your life on the bottom of a "good regional's" seniority list on reserve. And you know what, they were right. My decision is affirmed more and more every day by the pilots who have come to PSA from every other regional. Is our company and pay amazing? No. Is it awful? No. are there issues here? Of course. But I venture an educated guess that our issues aren't any worse than the other regionals, and in fact may be much better. There are plenty of people to be mad at, but PSA quite honestly isn't one of them. Not sure why every other airline's thread has to have something about PSA in it, but if you insist, at least stop with the misinformation.
Old 07-30-2015 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lima86
Correct, didn't ask for envoy's planes but voted yes knowing they would be coming your way. Yes you did secure your own futures..... at the expense of a much more professional pilot group.
Didn't you just hit the line? I don't understand why you try to make it a point to justify the garbage that you didn't even vote on.
What are you even talking about? First of all, the "yes" voters were a slim majority of the pilot group at the time of which only about 150 or so are left on property. And the decision for Envoy's 700s to be transferred to PSA was announced quite some time after the initial vote. So how exactly would the voters have "known in advance" that we would get Envoy's aircraft?

And I did just start flying. I'm not new to aviation though by any means. I've worked in several sectors of the industry for both good and bad employers. PSA is far from a bad company and my experiences with the crews I've flown with have been overwhelmingly positive. Does it have its problems though? Absolutely. I just get sick of seeing all the misinformation about PSA posted on every OTHER airline's threads. Most of the animosity towards PSA is misguided, ill-informed, and unfounded. It's just bandwagoning when it boils down to it.
Old 07-30-2015 | 11:20 AM
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For the record, this chris reed rules guy just hit the line a month or two ago, so anything he's telling you is just a repeat of what others have told him.
Old 07-30-2015 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bozobigtop
Volunteering at the homeless shelter will get you more attention.
This is great and is highly encouraged to do for volunteer work - you are giving back to your community.

Although, I would not say doing this gets you noticed better than being a recruiter. Several of our FO recruiters have been hired at a majors while captains with turbine pic have not. Being a recruiter will allow you to be at all the locations the majors are at and put a face to a name for you - and you are getting paid to do it not paying out of your own pocket.

Mr. Bill Kenedy (manager of pilot hiring) said it best "we know you can fly the airplane if you have no training issues and quite a bit of time at you company. What we can't tell on paper is if you are a good fit with our values, culture, and work well with our people."
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