What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#8901
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Hello ExpressJet Applicants,
Please PM me before you apply. We can split the $1000. Thank you.
Great things ahead! We are upgrading 4 guys in May!
Please PM me before you apply. We can split the $1000. Thank you.
Great things ahead! We are upgrading 4 guys in May!
#8903
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From: CRJ 200 CA
Not much talk about the CRJ side of the house in the earnings call. A lot of talk about ERJ's. Wonder were the profit problem lies? I think the silence spoke loudly.
#8905
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From: EMB 145 CPT
You want everyone else to comprise solely for your benefit. How is that not the definition of entitlement? What I propose is that each side keeps what they have. What you propose is redistribution of one side for the benefit of the other. Because you can't seem to live with yourself that your neighbor has got it a little better than you.
So who really is Obama here? Not me. Go look in the mirror.
Excluding special items, Skywest inc made money. They chose to have the expenses of operating two separate airlines, not the pilots. So if there is a profit problem, it certainly isn't any pilots' fault.
With your logic, the profit problem lies with Skywest airlines since they spent the most time talking about them.
But at least we are starting to get back to the operational performance we had before Skywest bought us. And that is despite CC's excuse that the reason why is because we were too big when they bought us. Before that, we had 274 aircraft and were consistently putting up better numbers year after year.
#8907
You want everyone else to comprise solely for your benefit. How is that not the definition of entitlement? What I propose is that each side keeps what they have. What you propose is redistribution of one side for the benefit of the other. Because you can't seem to live with yourself that your neighbor has got it a little better than you.
So who really is Obama here? Not me. Go look in the mirror.
Excluding special items, Skywest inc made money. They chose to have the expenses of operating two separate airlines, not the pilots. So if there is a profit problem, it certainly isn't any pilots' fault.
But with your logic, the profit problem lies with Skywest airlines since they spent the most time talking about them.
So who really is Obama here? Not me. Go look in the mirror.
Excluding special items, Skywest inc made money. They chose to have the expenses of operating two separate airlines, not the pilots. So if there is a profit problem, it certainly isn't any pilots' fault.
But with your logic, the profit problem lies with Skywest airlines since they spent the most time talking about them.
#8908
You want everyone else to comprise solely for your benefit. How is that not the definition of entitlement? What I propose is that each side keeps what they have. What you propose is redistribution of one side for the benefit of the other. Because you can't seem to live with yourself that your neighbor has got it a little better than you.
So who really is Obama here? Not me. Go look in the mirror.
Excluding special items, Skywest inc made money. They chose to have the expenses of operating two separate airlines, not the pilots. So if there is a profit problem, it certainly isn't any pilots' fault.
But with your logic, the profit problem lies with Skywest airlines since they spent the most time talking about them.
So who really is Obama here? Not me. Go look in the mirror.
Excluding special items, Skywest inc made money. They chose to have the expenses of operating two separate airlines, not the pilots. So if there is a profit problem, it certainly isn't any pilots' fault.
But with your logic, the profit problem lies with Skywest airlines since they spent the most time talking about them.
#8909
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From: EMB 145 CPT
No you did not. You scoffed at the idea that each side keep what they have by grandfathering the erj guys. But you are hung up on your neighbor having it just a bit better than you.
I'm all for you guys getting everything we have that is good and vice versa. If that cannot happen because management refuses to increase pilot labor cost, then what other alternative is there than that we each keep what we have? But nope, you get all hurt about that.
I reply for my own entertainment. The ONLY argument I made was that it is better for us to have one solid contract for everyone. One set of rules. I never told you to give up anything. Go look at my posts. I even said you can keep your precious outliers if you want. Wanting to stay separately coming from an XJT guy is so hypocritical. Wasn't it your side that wanted to merge all 3 together, but now you want to stay separate? And let me ask you how can we have a SLI if we have two separate contracts? What of new hires?
You are changing your story now. I'm the one who said we should keep what he have by grandfathering the ERJ guys but you didn't like that. We talked about getting the best of both contracts but that may not be possible. So the only alternative is to have two separate rules.
I'm all for a 3 way merger and still am. Remember I'm the one who coined the term One List or NOTHING. But the fact is that the ERJ MEC caved in that. But yeah, I rather stay separate if the alternative is that we only merge the ASA/xjt list leaving Skywest out AND taking concessions. It's not hypocritical at all.
Lastly, I'm not talking about two separate contracts. You need to think outside the box. There would be rules for the ERJ aircraft and rules for the other aircraft. This is not rocket science here.
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