What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#8881
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if the professionalism is the attitude of the ASA side....no wonder ya'll dwell on something that was closed over a month ago. Instead of making videos to demonize a system, why not use that effort to get something like i don't know....efbs? more flying? bigger planes? a new CPA with delta, ua, aa? but hey, what do i know right?
#8882
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if the professionalism is the attitude of the ASA side....no wonder ya'll dwell on something that was closed over a month ago. Instead of making videos to demonize a system, why not use that effort to get something like i don't know....efbs? more flying? bigger planes? a new CPA with delta, ua, aa? but hey, what do i know right?
#8883
That doesn't seem fair? But it seems fair to you that the ERJ side concedes while the CRJ side is brought up to meet in the middle? What is wrong with each side just at least keeping what they have?!!! You don't lose ANYTHING and we don't lose anything. Unbelievable!
Skywest Inc purchased Expressjet. I don't think this rumor is true, BUT IF the Inc was going to do this to try to complete the merger, they wouldn't cut their nose off to spite their face in the process. They would just disguise aircraft taken off the CPA, that were going to come off anyway (for whatever reason) and let the pilots twist in the wind trying to figure out if it's punishment. Again, I'm not saying this is true. I'm just agreeing that they wouldn't give away profitable flying just to complete the merger.
Skywest Inc purchased Expressjet. I don't think this rumor is true, BUT IF the Inc was going to do this to try to complete the merger, they wouldn't cut their nose off to spite their face in the process. They would just disguise aircraft taken off the CPA, that were going to come off anyway (for whatever reason) and let the pilots twist in the wind trying to figure out if it's punishment. Again, I'm not saying this is true. I'm just agreeing that they wouldn't give away profitable flying just to complete the merger.
#8884
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if the professionalism is the attitude of the ASA side....no wonder ya'll dwell on something that was closed over a month ago. Instead of making videos to demonize a system, why not use that effort to get something like i don't know....efbs? more flying? bigger planes? a new CPA with delta, ua, aa? but hey, what do i know right?
I didn't make any videos. I want a defined contribution plan, much higher per diem, much higher wages, EFB's, etc. I also want LESS flying here (and all regionals), with m ore flying at the majors. But I'm also a realist. I know that just not wages, but massive total compensation increases are fighting an uphill battle. Does this mean I will cave, and take whatever the company will offer? No, I'm willing to fight for better, and even the best. But I know that we will never attain what we want (FO topping out at $70/hr, pensions, etc), but I will work for what we need to make a better life. Not just for myself, but for others, and future aviators that come into this profession.
#8885
So maybe 5 upgrades! I don't even get the point of this PO. There's so little vacancy that it seems kind of pointless. But hey, they know what they need I guess
#8886
No, professionalism is being able to discuss something and convey your message without resorting to not just name calling, but excessive personal attacks.
I didn't make any videos. I want a defined contribution plan, much higher per diem, much higher wages, EFB's, etc. I also want LESS flying here (and all regionals), with m ore flying at the majors. But I'm also a realist. I know that just not wages, but massive total compensation increases are fighting an uphill battle. Does this mean I will cave, and take whatever the company will offer? No, I'm willing to fight for better, and even the best. But I know that we will never attain what we want (FO topping out at $70/hr, pensions, etc), but I will work for what we need to make a better life. Not just for myself, but for others, and future aviators that come into this profession.
I didn't make any videos. I want a defined contribution plan, much higher per diem, much higher wages, EFB's, etc. I also want LESS flying here (and all regionals), with m ore flying at the majors. But I'm also a realist. I know that just not wages, but massive total compensation increases are fighting an uphill battle. Does this mean I will cave, and take whatever the company will offer? No, I'm willing to fight for better, and even the best. But I know that we will never attain what we want (FO topping out at $70/hr, pensions, etc), but I will work for what we need to make a better life. Not just for myself, but for others, and future aviators that come into this profession.
#8887
No, professionalism is being able to discuss something and convey your message without resorting to not just name calling, but excessive personal attacks.
I didn't make any videos. I want a defined contribution plan, much higher per diem, much higher wages, EFB's, etc. I also want LESS flying here (and all regionals), with m ore flying at the majors. But I'm also a realist. I know that just not wages, but massive total compensation increases are fighting an uphill battle. Does this mean I will cave, and take whatever the company will offer? No, I'm willing to fight for better, and even the best. But I know that we will never attain what we want (FO topping out at $70/hr, pensions, etc), but I will work for what we need to make a better life. Not just for myself, but for others, and future aviators that come into this profession.
I didn't make any videos. I want a defined contribution plan, much higher per diem, much higher wages, EFB's, etc. I also want LESS flying here (and all regionals), with m ore flying at the majors. But I'm also a realist. I know that just not wages, but massive total compensation increases are fighting an uphill battle. Does this mean I will cave, and take whatever the company will offer? No, I'm willing to fight for better, and even the best. But I know that we will never attain what we want (FO topping out at $70/hr, pensions, etc), but I will work for what we need to make a better life. Not just for myself, but for others, and future aviators that come into this profession.
Agree on all other points.
AnchorDown
#8888
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What do you care who makes any videos? Did it cost you anything? You don't like it? Don't watch it, really not complicated. I thought they were informative and helped me understand globalization better. Raised some questions and now they've been answered. Just my take.
Agree on all other points.
AnchorDown
Agree on all other points.
AnchorDown
#8889
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't complaining about the videos. I was just stating to him that I wasn't the individual who made the videos, nor did I have anything to do with the videos. He seems to make the assumption that the entire ASA side had a part, to make a video to tell them something, in which they already knew because we all made the video.
#8890
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I dont think the word compromise exsists in your vocabulary. That's how this works. Everyone gives up a little to gain a little. Thats how negotiations work. You obviously are too thick to understand this. You want to keep everything and want everything your way. You must be a democrat.
Compromise? Let me see, you want the ERJ side to compromise and therefore concede items which in the process improves items on the CRJ side. But you are not willing to keep what you currently enjoy (not concede anything) while the ERJ side does the same by grandfathering pilots and you try to lecture me on compromise?! Why can't you just compromise by just keeping what you have instead of expecting the other side to conceded to improve your lot?!
What do you care who makes any videos? Did it cost you anything? You don't like it? Don't watch it, really not complicated. I thought they were informative and helped me understand globalization better. Raised some questions and now they've been answered. Just my take.
Agree on all other points.
AnchorDown
Agree on all other points.
AnchorDown
I dont care if you make banana videos, but there was misinformation on those videos. And we know why, they are obviously bias.
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