Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 2247636)

If XJT can top what the WO's are currently offering, I'm sure their application count will dramatically increase. They will have to be near 70k a year for fo's. Right now money talks. I'm listening lol

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2247733)

Maybe. But it's more than just money attracting new hires to WOs. Industry-leading pay, no-interview flow, industry-leading qol and schedule flexibility (at PSA), and a relatively quick upgrade (PDT, PSA, and by next year probably Envoy). Even with higher pay, it's hard to compete with all of that.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2247821)

It's funny when you guys talk about your SAP at PSA, how you can get 20 days off and get 65 hours or pay or 100 hr of pay with 12 days off. Well here, I can get 75 hours with 20 days off, or 125 hours with 12 days off.

Oh, and no line holder ever has to work holidays according to your SAP cheerleaders.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2194493)

And upgrade time is falling.

Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2247821)

It's funny when you guys talk about your SAP at PSA, how you can get 20 days off and get 65 hours or pay or 100 hr of pay with 12 days off. Well here, I can get 75 hours with 20 days off, or 125 hours with 12 days off.

Oh, and no line holder ever has to work holidays according to your SAP cheerleaders.

Originally Posted by No Lies (Post 2247915)

Almost as funny as an XJT guy telling everyone that upgrade time is falling.



What is the upgrade time right now? What is the date of the most JR CA at XJT?

Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2247975)

Upgrade time has fallen to 7 or 8 decades. There is not written records of when the most recent upgrade took place. Some geologist believe it may have taken place somewhere between the paleolithic era and mesolithic era.

Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2247975)

Upgrade time has fallen to 7 or 8 decades. There is not written records of when the most recent upgrade took place. Some geologist believe it may have taken place somewhere between the paleolithic era and mesolithic era.

Originally Posted by WakeWash (Post 2247937)

With the SAP, the above is possible for the most senior to the. It's junior pilots. That's what's great about it, ANY line holder can do that, and yes, ANY and ALL line pilots can drop holidays. Because the SAP happens with no reserve grid to stop it. Sure you may get what you're saying at ExpressJet, but with PBS those types of schedules are for the senior guys while the junior ones are left with crap lines and 11 days off. And everyone else claiming they have SAP, has a reserve grid that restricts how many pilots can drop trips and move stuff around, PSA does not have that. It's unrestricted.



While I'm no cheerleader for the SAP or PSA, it annoys me when guys who don't understand how it really works start talking like it's nothing and their company has it as well. It really is the biggest QOL tool around, and NO ONE else has it.

Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2248199)

Only the CRJ side has pbs. The ERJ side has good line building rules, good vacation rules, good trading rules including the initial line improvement window and the secondary line improvement window with bad day worse day trades. These are all things that all line holders can take advantage of although not all line holders can get Halloween and Super Bowl Sunday off.

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2248222)

And proboly part of the reason that they are going from 280 airplanes down to ~100.... while the ASA side remains status quo..and its not Just the pilots. The MX contract isn't favorable for the company...