AWAC wont make it through the summer.

Wow. Heard you all had a mishap in AMA yesterday. Best wishes.

United annual report shows a drop of 19 e145s in 2017. Was this planned?

Sounds about right.

UA may drop 19. But how many does XJT drop?? 50??

Sounds right. 2 planes a month lost to commutair plus parking 19 = 43 lost planes for 2017.

Is there a bonus being issued Feb 1st for contract signing?

Trans States has been removing some of their old LR's from the United fleet also.

I hope you aren't using AWAC as an example of a surviving regional..

Are their financial futures not dependent on each other? Even without combined fleet, seniority list, contract, does the financial failure of one affect the other? I thought they were separate parts of the same company.

Not anymore than Skywest and ExpressJet and ASA. Looks like Inc is making money.

What contract?

For the contract extension. $1000 minimum profit sharing paid sometime in Feb. I'm hearing the 10th or the 24th, probably going to be on the off pay week.

No matter what happens or where the profit is made, Inc. plays with their books and always shows any loss on the XJT side. Aaaaand no one ever gives a shiit.

They aren't making money off xjt/asa. They are only making money on the Skywest.

How do they do that?

Simple. You charge XJT for things like an IT dept, benefits dept, Maintenance fees. You get XJT to pay for hotel rooms and then when they get cancelled, Skywest gets the refund money into the Inc account. Ask any accountant how well the books can show something that is not true.

Skywest is in complete control of the contracts with the majors. They can move the money making contracts any where they want to put them. Skywest was also behind the XJT money losing contracts.

You guys have special access to Skywest INCs "books"? Kinda funny reading ya'lls posts and how much you think you know. One thing is for certain though, Skywest should have never acquired express jet!

Man, talk about a coolaid drinker. Skywest has been brilliant with the non union side. Are you saying they're not smart enough to make Express Jet profitable? They're doing exactly what they want with Express Jet.

They wanted to spend money to lose money because expressjet had unionized pilots?

I can't believe your airline still has an IT department though. That is shady.

No ones cooking books.. They even said they made a huge "miscalculation" on the contract when they bought XJT. The guy behind that was sent out the door... now the mop up continues. Plan and simple.

This is just my opinion but I really think if Inc. was so concerned about getting the costs of the XJT under control, they would have done something about in the last three years other than let us sit on our hands while the lights are turned off one by one. Every other regional in that time frame has seemed to blossom into something great but XJT, nah, unsalvagable, shut it down boys, problem solving is hard.

And what did you think they'd say? Um, we bought Express Jet to gain a big chunk of the market share. That's all. How long did it take them to put that deal together to buy Express Jet anyways? IIRC, I think that it was quite a while. I seriously doubt they did that without doing their research.

Go back and listen to all the conference calls. It gets spit out more then once.. It came down to they signed a deal based on SkyWest costs but never could make that happen do to multiple reasons.. at first i thought they didn't want the E145. But now they dont even want ASA 200's..

Actually they're replacing some of the high time OO 200's with EV birds. Go figure.

They could have made it all work but the anti-union is too strong. The XJT and ASA MEC were all for negotiating something for all three pilot groups that was beneficial to all sides. Instead they decided to do it their way thinking they could get the XJT and ASA pilot group go for their concessions. And they might still succeed. But in the meantime they have squandered hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of jobs.

Where would one find those conference calls? On xjt.com?

I thought OO announced they are parking all 200s this year. Why would they take EVs?

Really, what planet are you on? OO didn't announce parking all 200's. OO said that they were getting rid of the 200 fleet at Express Jet

Can you post the memo that said it was only the L-ASA 200's and not the Skywest 200's that were being parked?

The SKW inter memo. Basically the press release states ASA to loss all 200 flying and gaining 700's for AA (12'ish). And on the SKW side they said they will loss a few to "old age", but no significant drop of 200's. SkyWest is even back flying 700's for Alaska!!

In addition, using the word "parked" to quote No Lies is a misnomer. While a significant number are being parked many are going to SkyWest and Endeavor.

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Agreed. Saw three EV tails in ORD yesterday. One of them in SKW livery.

I don't see why anyone is surprised that some xjt aircraft will be at OO. If Inc wants to get rid of 200s from xjt where would you expect them to go with the 200s? It would make sense to replace some older ones from OO and park the older ones instead.

Skyw has been flying EV tails for years.

And Comair, Mesaba, Pinnacle, Horizon, etc.

You forgot Independence air and Air Mekong...

Nope, not surprised they are "transferring" the aircraft. But that wasn't the point. The point is that if they were going to operated anyway, why do they have to leave ASA?

SKW had a press release recently. Something like 76 total 200s to be given up, I think it was 49 from XJT. You can go back a few pages (maybe a month?) in the SKW thread and find the public link to the article. EDV seems to be getting 14 of them in 2017.