If there is no company (L-XJT) flying for UA, then there will not be a CPP with XJT.

Unless you work for UA, then you do not have any routes.

Just keep pushing those planes on time and don't cancel any flights. That will show UA how great XJT is and it will be rewarded with 1.50 pay raises and more flying in the future. The mainline partners are noticing.

This. It's painfully obvious that mainline (real mainline, not SkyWest) doesn't give a rats behind about performance, only cost. By all means, keep pushing on time, but the only thanks you'll get from UA is the transfer of more aircraft to cheaper outfits. Oh, and some joke of a program like the CPP.

And in case anyone missed this gem

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170210005098/en

My point, exactly.

At this point what's attrition each month? Will it outpace the 100 aircraft leaving this year?

There are 40 something planes leaving this year. It's supposed to stabilize at 101. It appears the company doesn't publish attrition data anymore but there are probably at least 25 or 30 leaving a month, maybe more.

100 aircraft...Talking total XJT+ASA... guess the only way to know is how much the seniority list shrinks on each side, factoring pilots coming in..

Fairly junior captain here, and my seniority has been climbing at a rate of about 15-20 or so a month. So, it appears as if people on the top are leaving. Doesn't help that our lines have shrunk so much that those of us who have been on reserve for years, will probably remain on reserve until we leave as well.

101 total ERJ

Not to be too nit picky but according to Skywest, it's 100 ERJs by the end of 2017.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...89_1ex99d1.htm

According to UA, it is a total of 100 50 seat planes. I don't think they will be at XJT no matter what Skywest says.

Yes, that is by 2019 (or the end of 2019, I can't remember which). It's 100 at XJT by the end of 2017.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...review-433304/

207 50 seaters by end of 2017.

"Executives have previously outlined plans for a 50-seat regional jet fleet of as few as 100 aircraft by 2019." But this entire article is about UA reviewing plans.

Now that Scott Kirby works his magic at UA I would expect an AA style operating model. i.e. lots of small RJs...

No one can predict 6 months from now.. business plans change daily.. but yes. RJ fleet will decline over the next few years.

Damn, just when I thought XJT would be a good fit.......(I live in IAH). Do reserve FOs get to fly quite a bit?

Skywest would probably be a better option. Republic is a good place and they might open a IAH base at some point. Mesa has a IAH base but they're awful. I don't recommend coming to Xjet just because the future is so bleak and it will be a long time (probably 9 to 12 months) before you can even hold IAH.

I've generally been used a lot on reserve, but not as much lately due to it being the slow season. Had a couple months of 100+ credit in the summer and fall. Held a relief line for December. Hoping to finally hold a relief line again next month.

You mean out of EWR or CLE? The new hires do not get IAH. Those that do have IAH will get flushed out due to DFW closing.

Assuming EWR even stays open. Latest buzz going around is that one of our big 3 ERJ bases will close by the end of the year. It will be somewhat ironic if CLE hangs on, and is the last base to close when SkyWest, Inc. finally pulls the plug on us.

It'll be ORD, for us to move to IAD to cover Commutair... just sayin...


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My prediction is EWR, ORD, CLE, and then IAH in that order for the closing of the ERJ bases.

How are the hiring 500 this year if you are scheduled to lose 50 airframes?

That was the 2016 plan. XJT is a little behind.

Who went to Espresso with ExpressJet today at IAH training center?

I'm at SKW and I would not recommend it if you want IAH. Outlook for that base is not good.

How long have you been at SKYW A?

Just for argument's sake - let's pretend ExpressJet isn't pending doom and destruction.

How is FO seniority in ATL?

And back to doom and destruction: am I completely missing something or is that the only regional player based in ATL?

Cheers

To go with the XJT doom and gloom train of thought, one of the big rumors floating around is that XJT will wind down in ATL and Endeavor will move into town. Who knows....

Well, Endeavor announced opening an ATL base today.

Perfect timing on your question, 9E opening atl 200 base early July, announced this morning

Edit: 15-20 planes are planned to be based there along with line maintenance facilities.

Better to be lucky than good, I suppose. (On timing of the question.) I'm guessing a few months to a year's worth of bids before there's any guess as to seniority with Endeavor?

Thanks, gents.

Yeah it'll all be a guess for the next couple weeks until the vacancy results are in. My guess is senior ca and junior fo but we'll have to see.

Well at least 5 more years. ;)

Soooooo, XJT is transferring aircraft to TSA and Commutair, shrinking to 101 on the 145 side, and now United has signed a 5 year deal for 65 aircraft (200s no less)? Perhaps United will continue to sign CPAs with XJT?

Im guessing ZW's 200's are paid off. They probably came in way cheaper then XJT... your "assuming" SkyWest management wants to sign a cpa for the E145's... seems less likely now...

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United is on the hook for lease payments on the 145s. But I'm not sure when the leases end other than the last lease ends 2021. Theoretically, Skywest can sign a profitable cpa with another mainline carrier as well.

Im sure they could.. If UA owns the lease then i doubt you would see a large chuck going to another airline.. they even poked fun about AA lossing all its lift to them... doubt they would want the opposite... most the "long lease" (left) planes seem to have landed at another airline already...

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Yeah, all the long leases may already be gone or on the way out, the XRs. Supposedly, Inc is trying to get a deal to back fill for AA the lift AWAC provides for them.

With what aircraft ASA delta 200's? XJT E145's?, SkyWest 200's...???.. Im guess every airline is running to AA saying "pick me, pick me"....

What does the crystal ball say? Hmmmm.

1. I have not seen an actual statement in the SKYW INC 10K that the ERJs HAVE been extended to the end of 2018. Only that UAL MAY do
2 - 1 year extensions. I would think that there is a 12 month notification clause in the CPA that UAL must give to XJT, prior to the end of 2017, if they do not plan to exercise the extension clause. So could it be that XJT didn't get an extension but only a 12 month notification clause that will begin at the end of 2017?

2. AA going back to XJT for ERJs? Why. SKYW INC has approx 40 UAL 700s coming off line, UAL didn't want to extend them, and they need to find new homes so as they can pay the lease payments. That's what was done on the DAL flying in DTW. The report I heard was that the reason AA removed XE from flying was due to the XE mechs required that they do all mtc. AA wanted to keep the C and D checks in house. Mechs said no so bye bye.

IMO...AA upgraded the ASA CRJ flying from 200s to 700 in Dallas and in LA for SKYW. I would bet that they continue the dual class upgrading since AW is gone. 200s for 700s.

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Presumably, with the 145s UAL doesn't want. There were originally 244 of them. Two of them were sold, and the ones left doing UAX flying are the 36 that went to TSA, 40 that will eventually be at CMT, and 101 at XJT. That leaves exactly 65 of them with nothing to do. Which coincidentally is the same number of 200s that AWAC has flying for AA. So there will be a lot of them laying around. But I'm not holding my breadth.