EDV is probably going to get all of them with their southern up coming base (maybe two bases to cover this amount of aircraft)
12 is just the tip.

Our union is really good at telling us alternative facts.

As stated before, EDV is getting no more than 14 of these -200s. SKW is replacing their older -200s and the rest are being parked or sold back to Bombardier according to the memo. EDVs southern base has no affect on getting more than 14.

We've been told we (Endeavor) are only getting 14 because that's all management thinks we can increase staffing to handle.

I think they're only short term in the New York market. The southern base, if we actually get it, will probably be for more than 14 as they replace the 200 flying out of New York

Good question. The union is only as good as their elected representatives.

There is a lot more to representation than simply being a dues paying member. Like was said in another post, any organization is always only as good as its leadership. And I'm not just referring to unions.

There is nothing the pilots or their union can do at this point. The decisions
are made above the airline level. The core always sacrifices the extremities to stay alive.

Union or not I feel Skywest could've figured out something that would work for all groups. What disturbs me more is the lack of comraderie or support I see from the Skywest pilots. Is it simply the union hate? If so, would they have same sentiments at the majors regarding their union? Seems like double standards? Granted they don't do as much for the regional side, but if one's goal is a major with ALPA representation I would think you'd support them along the way?

whipsawing on a smaller level.
Inc. is protecting Skw at the expense of express jet for now.
You hit the nail on the head!

And I am pretty sure they are making rationale decisions. It isn't about SKYW first. It is about SKYW delivering a better margin.

Are you sure? Maybe you could expand and provide solid examples? Because I'm pretty sure by Skywest's history that they know how to run and build a business. Seems to me if they'd put some effort into the Express Jet side they could make it profitable as well. And in regards to the whipsawing post, how can you call it whipsawing when they are not using it for bargaining? It's my understanding they're not even negotiating or trying to improve things on the union side

No, I think you were spot on. They wanted the market share and thought over time we would drop the union. Didn't happen so now they are doing the only thing they can. You guys can get along without a union and that's great. I like that we have a CBA that has compensation and benefits contained within it that can't be changed by the company without going through the union. That is my security blanket. Now, there is no security from being shrunk into nonexistence, but I knew that going in and I have accepted it.

ASA was doing fine on our own until we were sold to Delta, who did nothing to improve things. Delta managers who retired from Delta slowly took over management of ASA and further ran it down, and then sold ASA to SKYW, who improved things some. Then SKYW bought XTJ and merged the two, and it's been downhill ever since.

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You obviously didn't understand what I'm saying. And how would you? I have my results. There is never a guarantee that any job I have will exist until I retire. That's not the result we pay for. Only management can control that end. And we have had very bad management, especially since Inc took over.


They are doing what is smart at this point. The past is the past. They can't go back and fix those mistakes. So it makes sense to shutter the side that is losing money and keeping the cheaper labor side.


The union was not a wedge. It's simple an anti-union stance management took. That's unfortunate but oh well. All other airlines make money with unions, including regionals. So it's definitely not the unions preventing a profitable business. But I agree, if they could do it all over again, they would not have bought either. And I don't lose sleep at night about the hundreds of millions they've sunk into ASA/XJT.

When did they stop flying the 700's? And who was flying it for OO?
Doesn't sound accurate.

It is accurate. The 700's were traded out for 175's but horizon has had some issues so they brought a few 700's back to cover that flying.

Yes, I know you think that. And I see you conveniently ignored how I explained that.

You still don't get it. Not surprising.

It's accurate. Just read an internal memo today about having a 700 in Alaska colors till summer and even a 200 will be doing some flying for a month. It sounds like Horizon is parking a couple Qs

The fact that you think my comment is not cogent is part of the reason you are not able to comprehend.

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I didn't know you thought of me so highly. I didn't know you even thought about me. Creepy. Nightly night!

So 101 ERJ-135/145/145XRs gone by the end of 2017. What will the relationship between United Express and ExpressJet be at the end of the year? CRJ-200/700s? Will the CPP still be alive?

End of 2017...Seems like XJT ASA side 12 700's for AA and 63-700/900's for DL, xjt side 100~ E145's for UA

Will there be an ExpressJet by the end of 2017?
I feel like Mesa is gonna get all of our routes? Or TransStates? Or CommutAir?
Who's gonna get LCH, LFT, AEX, MLU, SHV, MOB, BHM, and all the other little airports??

I hope so they will have 170 aircraft at the end of 2017... the bigger question is will there be any E145's at the end of 2018...