Retirement Plan Negotiations?
12-13-2018, 10:58 AM
#131
Bourgeoisie
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: 787 SO
Posts: 616
Originally Posted by PeterGriffin
Or....simple section 6 negotiations, 3% pay raise each year, increase A plan cap 50k, next contract, 3% pay raise, increase A plan cap 50k, etc, etc...it can be done.
And the company will get what in return?
12-13-2018, 11:22 AM
#132
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Crewmember
Posts: 1,377
Originally Posted by MEMFO4Ever
Sure, sounds simple.
And the company will get what in return?
And the company will get what in return?
They have gotten plenty out of us in the last 3 contracts. It is about time we started being treated as valued employees.
Remember the tax break? Bonuses for management, increased pay for hourly workers, except pilots. Nothing for pilots.
The Exec that said they would recoup the money from the last contract in 6 months due to work efficiency was correct.
12-13-2018, 01:30 PM
#134
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 63
Fall 2015, TA was being debated, Co was short staffed on pilots. If ever we were to draw/checkmate, it was then. Deficiencies in Sec 28 were obvious. TA passed anyway. MEC is not the only one to blame. Membership approved it.
3 yrs removed, Co is not in that situation and we have less leverage than we did in ‘15. What is the catalyst that will bring A Fund (or any Sec 28) improvements ?
There’s much talk of pancakes maybe being up, maybe down. Add A Fund being down every yr w/o fail to the list with death and taxes.
3 yrs removed, Co is not in that situation and we have less leverage than we did in ‘15. What is the catalyst that will bring A Fund (or any Sec 28) improvements ?
There’s much talk of pancakes maybe being up, maybe down. Add A Fund being down every yr w/o fail to the list with death and taxes.
12-13-2018, 03:33 PM
#137
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 150
So, basically, the only way for us to put pressure on the company is for them to screw up their staffing again...hmmm...great strategy. How about we draw a line in the sand? How about we go to whatever lengths possible and legal to negotiate what we think is fair? I think we can, I think we can become a unified group, and yes, it can be as simple as 3 and 50, (3% and 50k)every contract...that's basically cost of living, cost of doing business, no give backs. In other words, fair.
12-13-2018, 03:50 PM
#138
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,099
Originally Posted by Redeyz
Fall 2015, TA was being debated, Co was short staffed on pilots. If ever we were to draw/checkmate, it was then. Deficiencies in Sec 28 were obvious. TA passed anyway. MEC is not the only one to blame. Membership approved it.
3 yrs removed, Co is not in that situation and we have less leverage than we did in ‘15. What is the catalyst that will bring A Fund (or any Sec 28) improvements ?
There’s much talk of pancakes maybe being up, maybe down. Add A Fund being down every yr w/o fail to the list with death and taxes.
3 yrs removed, Co is not in that situation and we have less leverage than we did in ‘15. What is the catalyst that will bring A Fund (or any Sec 28) improvements ?
There’s much talk of pancakes maybe being up, maybe down. Add A Fund being down every yr w/o fail to the list with death and taxes.
The catalyst will be a pilot shortage. It’ll hit cargo airlines before passenger airlines.
12-13-2018, 07:10 PM
#139
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 444
Originally Posted by FXLAX
The catalyst will be a pilot shortage. It’ll hit cargo airlines before passenger airlines.
12-14-2018, 11:05 AM
#140
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 306
Originally Posted by LJ Driver
Not an employee of either currently but hoping to join your ranks soon... just curious to know why this may be the case?
Most people haven’t realized the best job in aviation could be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog $hit out of Hong Kong.
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