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#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,099
I disagree with getting out of the OIM. I called my block rep. Getting out of the OIM doesn't guarantee anything. In fact if we drop out all it does is guarantees that people can then not opt out and many pilots will loose extra pay and protections if they get corona or are quarantine. My rep told me as well as many union communications that they are in talks with the company but the company doesn't have the same appetite to an additional OIM as our pilot group does. We are not in section 6 the company doesn't have to do squat. Some are saying that if we get out of this OIM then more people will not do the China flying. That is absolutely laughable. Under the current OIM we have provisions to opt out and many are still not doing it how would dropping out of the OIM incentive more to drop out with no provisions? I am fully in agreement that another OIM would be good but look at the rest of the industries agreements. Ours is still the best. I have copies of UPS,Delta,Spirit agreements. We cant even get our pilot group to steep up now how is pulling out of this OIM going to change this? I have said this over and over again but we all need to look in the mirror and ask am I part of the problem or the solution.
Can you please post the rest of the industries’ agreements? Also, didn’t the bill just signed require employers to pay any worker that gets infected with Corina?
#23
Talked to one of our pilots today on 48 hr layover in LAX and hotel restaurant is closed, no room service and now a Governor order to stay at home. This is getting crazy what is a guy supposed to if you cannot go out to eat? The essential worker letter references to and from work not out to eat.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 331
DONE
If you get quarantined you are only pay protected, per the OIM. i.e. if you get it close to the end of the trip or are quarantined at the end of a trip you will be sitting on your own time somewhere. The union says it it still up in the air who will be paying for a hotel if required.
Talked to one of our pilots today on 48 hr layover in LAX and hotel restaurant is closed, no room service and now a Governor order to stay at home. This is getting crazy what is a guy supposed to if you cannot go out to eat? The essential worker letter references to and from work not out to eat.
Talked to one of our pilots today on 48 hr layover in LAX and hotel restaurant is closed, no room service and now a Governor order to stay at home. This is getting crazy what is a guy supposed to if you cannot go out to eat? The essential worker letter references to and from work not out to eat.
#26
If the city of Los Angles feels it necessary to close public movement to such a point that no one can eat, than all operations; ie; transportation, pax and cargo, should cease. I'm not arguing one way or another about whether it should be, but Fedex and other related industries can't function, nor should they, if such draconian measures are deemed appropriate.
This may be the new reality and may be necessary, but you can't have some industries vital and then expect the front line staff to somehow fit in to a lockdown environment.
This may be the new reality and may be necessary, but you can't have some industries vital and then expect the front line staff to somehow fit in to a lockdown environment.
#27
#28
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 798
You need to buy a cooler. Or call the Duty Officer and have extra meals boarded to take along and get a fridge at the hotel. I cannot believe some of the whining around here as we watch every pax pilot in the world get their a$$e$ handed to them. Figure it out, make it work, and count your blessings. Or put your schedule in open time - plenty of folks would be fine with that as well.
#29
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 798
If the city of Los Angles feels it necessary to close public movement to such a point that no one can eat, than all operations; ie; transportation, pax and cargo, should cease. I'm not arguing one way or another about whether it should be, but Fedex and other related industries can't function, nor should they, if such draconian measures are deemed appropriate.
This may be the new reality and may be necessary, but you can't have some industries vital and then expect the front line staff to somehow fit in to a lockdown environment.
This may be the new reality and may be necessary, but you can't have some industries vital and then expect the front line staff to somehow fit in to a lockdown environment.
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 792
You need to buy a cooler. Or call the Duty Officer and have extra meals boarded to take along and get a fridge at the hotel. I cannot believe some of the whining around here as we watch every pax pilot in the world get their a$$e$ handed to them. Figure it out, make it work, and count your blessings. Or put your schedule in open time - plenty of folks would be fine with that as well.
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