1. Tony is smart enough to know exactly what is in the best interest of every one of the 5,000-ish pilots at FedEx that aren’t as smart as he is.

2. Reps aren’t listening to Tony

3. Therefore, the reps don’t have the best interest of the 5,000-ish pilots at FedEx at heart.

Q.E.D.

 

So sluggo, you what would you rather have, our current structured A plan with the FAE tied to the IRS benefit limit, or a variable benefit /pancake/PSPP plan? Simple question.

 

Many younger pilots I have flown with recently would rather just have a big B plan. They don't value the A plan like the older crowd. So if the current representatives want to keep the A plan are they working against the will of the younger population of our growing pilot group? Should those younger pilots recall the representatives over it? This is the theory TonyC is using and others on this forum.

 

Nice that you didn't say what you want. I fly with a lot of younger pilots that came here for the A plan and don't want to see it go away or changed, other than an increase in the FAE.

If those pilots don't think their LEC is representing them, then yes, they should initiate a recall.

You really are a special boy NoClue.

 

Most of the new guys I've flown with are well aware of what the A plan means. There aren't many in favor of dumping the A plan in favor of a bigger B plan.

 

By all means, they should use your "data" instead of actual valid polling numbers. GTFOH

 

I've been in the cockpit for those conversations. It usually goes like this "so what do you think of the union &$@&?ing us getting rid of the pension?" There sure leaves the younger crowd who may differ in opinion a lot of move to give their opinion.
I've shared the cockpit with Tony. I'll say he's very knowledgeable but there really isn't a opportunity to disagree with him. Basic CRM tries to avoid conflict and keep the jet going forward. I think alot of you ASSUME alot. You know what happens when you assume...

 

No. It isn't, and that's the trap that everyone falls into. Even the vaulted IPA was unable to increase their A-plan last contract for the same reasons we heard why we couldn't increase ours.

Each side has their lines in the sand. Ours are PBS and vacation. If any CBA was presented to us with PBS as a primary bidding system or had drastic changes to our vacation system, I fully believe that it would be voted down by 90+% of the pilot population. I also believe that with the new funding requirements increasing the A-plan is the company's line in the sand. It's silly to think that we are allowed to have these lines and the company can't or doesn't. I hope the union tries to increase our A-plan. I hope they try like heck. But I'm not expecting it to happen.

 

The question was what would you prefer and it is a simple question. Based on your reply, it sounds like you would prefer raising the FAE.

The hard part is convincing the company that we are willing to fight for it.

What if the company stated in this negotiation that they want to reduce the value of a vacation day. Ours is the highest in the industry, and it is a line in the sand for them this go around. Now, the MEC says that the mediator has said that what the company is proposing is industry standard, and if we can't come to an agreement, that he is going to wait 6 months until he mediated another session. The MEC sells it to the crew force that this is the best they can do and it is the companies line in the sand. They send out the TA and don't make a recommendation on ratification, but the NC continues to tell us how good it is in the road shows. The final result is 54% of the crew force votes to accept the TA.

Now, what if we made increasing the FAE our line in the sand. The company makes a low offer or no offer at all. The mediator says the same thing, so the MEC sends a TA to the crew force. Instead, this time, the MEC recommends rejecting the TA because the company can afford what they are asking for, we just need to fight for it. 90%+ reject the TA showing the company that this is our line in the sand.

FedEx hasn't been significantly affected by the changes in the funding rules. Two or three years in a row they made contributions of over $1 billion when no contribution was necessary. In 2017, they made a contribution of $2 billion when a contribution wasn't required under the funding rules.

We will get what we are willing to fight for.

 

Im not sure I understand what u mean. IPA A plan increases annually.